Installer/update manager for UHE products

[analogo13]

Urs, please NEVER a Plugin Manager like Native Instruments and NO f...ing Challenge/Response authorize of your Plugins or similar! NI and a few other Plugins are therefore sold and banned from my computer.

I still want to be able to save copies of the installers on my hard drive and simply unlock the plugins with a serial number..

Many thanks!

[masterhiggins]

Certainly no challenge/response, but a neat all-in-one multi-updater would be really handy. Or at least a single page on the official site for all of the updates and changelogs without having to check the forum on KVR to see them.

[yellowmix]

I would welcome a download and installation manager. That serial number feature sounds nifty. It would have saved me a lot of time when I rebuilt my computer. Come to think of it, downloading everything and setting custom paths once would have too.

I like tiny, portable executables, but if it could save some configuration info (e.g., custom paths) somewhere, that would be super. Windows registry is fine with me. If it did that I'd always use it even if it was just one product to update. Also, if it could remember login info (two-way crypt is fine on an encrypted hard drive). The less I have to do the better.

[Urs]

your habit of being helpful and reasonable really takes the fun out of the internet.

thx

[Urs]

NO f...ing Challenge/Response authorize of your Plugins or similar!

I hereby promise that we won't do C/R or similar for as long as we can survive without. I think the username & serial combination will be just fine for decades to come...

[ATN69]

Thank you Urs! Sounds great! I have one for Waves, NI, Arturia, Cakewalk and one for XLN. They all just sit there and take up space at the HDD, and they all work in their own quirky way. It's so easy to open u-he website, choose instrument and there it is. Just click to download. Can't get easier than that.

One thing I possibly would wish for though is some kind of notification when a new version is available. Not the kind of nagging notification that keeps popping up every time until I upgrade, but just a one time notification I don't go to u-he website daily to see if there is any updates, and I know you don't update so frequently anyway. I think it was Rob who reminded me once that my Zebra 2 was a old version. I simply didn't know.

[analogo13]

I hereby promise that we won't do C/R or similar for as long as we can survive without. I think the username & serial combination will be just fine for decades to come...

Thanks Urs, that calms me a lot, because your plugins are one of the most important for me!

[Aspects of Tone]

I prefer .zip files with manual placement of files 9but I must be minority). Hate installers with things I don't need. Hate NI with their temp files all over the place!

Well now we're a minority of 2

I hate installers with a passion and avoid wherever I can. Why? 'Cos I don't know what they are doing! I give them the path expecting everything to be installed there but no ... other stuff ends up in Steinberg/VST (don't use any Steinberg products), My Documents, Program Files, Program Data, Common Files or, worst of all, appdata. FFS, appdata is a hidden folder, why put presets and user stuff in there? Valhalla DSP do this. I love those reverbs but got caught out a few times when had to restore an image of Windows, only to find I'd lost some presets because they were in a hidden folder not part of my backup plan

I keep the Windows partition as clean as possible. I take regular system images (especially before updating anything) and the more stuff there is on my C: drive the larger those images get. ROLI installer dumped 2GB of sample files in My Documents even though I gave the installer the plugin folder to install in.

All my plugins are on a seperate hard drive, lock stock and barrel. All my samples are on a seperate hard drive as well. Makes it easy to do backups. But the other stuff has to be ferreted out and added to my backup list, Or moved where I want it, or symlinks made to fool the system (with notes so that I know where the actual folder is).

Easy installer/manager? No way, just makes a lot more work. Oh and connecting to the internet, downloading the plugin then installing. Nothing gets to talk out to the internet without my permission. So yet more work to find out which actual bit of the installer is trying to do that and temporarily open the door for it. Then close and lock the door again.

These things are fine in theory, but developers have a habit of adding in bits, doing things for our own good. Or, I'll just put this here because Steinberg/Microsoft said so. Oh and this VST3 thing, only allowing one folder in program files. It's my PC, I expect to be able to put the files where I want them. And if I uncheck VST3 I don't expect to have VST3 related stuff intstalled anyway.

I'm really finding maintaining a secure and smoothly running PC more and more difficult. Mostly down to developers taking away my choices. And all these calls for managers/installers just make me want to shout out NOOOOO! I'm not saying u-he would do this, so far I've not found any u-he files in places I don't expect, but I would really like to have the choice of a .zip file so I can just put the files where I want them. Simples.

If you read all the way to here, thanks for listening and sorry for the rant

[ATN69]

Now with Cakewalk leaving the stage I found another reason to dislike installers

[SLiC]

The simple solution is to have both options: An installation/update manger for those of us who want to use it and for those that don't keep the standard download individual files from the web.

[Aspects of Tone]

The simple solution is to have both options: An installation/update manger for those of us who want to use it and for those that don't keep the standard download individual files from the web.

Yes, this would be my preferred solution. I always love it when I get to a download page and find the option of a .zip file or installer

[#rob]

Now with Cakewalk leaving the stage I found another reason to dislike installers

The simple solution is to have both options: An installation/update manger for those of us who want to use it and for those that don't keep the standard download individual files from the web.

If there ever is an "online service center" or "universal installer" or something like that, I'll personally do my best to ensure that we keep the regular per-product downloads and installers available. Also, I'm just working on a new license retrieval interface for the new website, so I'm making damn sure that stays active, even if at some point we get an app that can activate licenses over teh Interwebz.

We don't like challenge/response and required Internet connections that much ourselves. So fear not.

[Teksonik]

I'm not against an Installer Update Tool option as long as it doesn't install anything except the plugins and content. No running services like the Pace iLok soft manager.

I only own DIVA and Hive now and they don't get updated with enough regularity to justify an update tool in my opinion. Better to just keep an eye out for updates and manually install them when they become available.

[Aspects of Tone]

If there ever is an "online service center" or "universal installer" or something like that, I'll personally do my best to ensure that we keep the regular per-product downloads and installers available. Also, I'm just working on a new license retrieval interface for the new website, so I'm making damn sure that stays active, even if at some point we get an app that can activate licenses over teh Interwebz.

We don't like challenge/response and required Internet connections that much ourselves. So fear not.

Thanks for the reassurance, Rob

[waltercruz]

(we might need one because we have more plug-ins coming out once the new website is ready as well)