TBProAudio: CS-3301 - Channel Strip Plugin for Windows and Mac OS X

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trmupstage
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246 posts since 25 Sep, 2002 from Chicago

Post Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:57 am

What about the possible Q shape issue where the Q shape is sharper than the displayed value when comparing with other EQs? Any comment on that?

Thanks for looking into the Nuendo bug.

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TB-ProAudio
KVRist
443 posts since 16 May, 2014 from Germany

Re: TBProAudio: CS-3301 - Channel Strip Plugin for Windows and Mac OS X

Post Sun Nov 19, 2017 7:38 am

trmupstage wrote:Q shape bug?

Doing more tests on this and comparing to other EQs I use. It seems the Q setting is off by one. Maybe there isn't a standard for Q, but with a Waves SSL or DMG Equality set for Q:2, CS-3301 has to be set to Q:1 to match their Q. I loaded up all the plugins and Span. I ran pink noise through them all and compared. CS-3301 definitely has a different Q shape compared to other plugins with the same Q setting. Does anyone know if Q has a standard reference?
Well, this could be, because CS-3301 does not copy the design of any plug-in. There is no "standard" behaviour for the Q setting...

trmupstage
KVRist
246 posts since 25 Sep, 2002 from Chicago

Re: TBProAudio: CS-3301 - Channel Strip Plugin for Windows and Mac OS X

Post Sun Nov 19, 2017 7:49 am

Thanks for clearing that up. I wasn't sure about how Q is determined and if there is a standard. Either way, the filters sound very nice and open. The workflow of this plugin is great.
The VST3 version works fine in Nuendo 8.1 with the insert slot disable button. Thanks for the quick response.

Are you having a Black Friday Sale this week? I'm tempted to pick it up but don't want to pay full price if waiting a few days will be a better deal.

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TB-ProAudio
KVRist
443 posts since 16 May, 2014 from Germany

Re: TBProAudio: CS-3301 - Channel Strip Plugin for Windows and Mac OS X

Post Sun Nov 19, 2017 8:03 am

trmupstage wrote: Are you having a Black Friday Sale this week? I'm tempted to pick it up but don't want to pay full price if waiting a few days will be a better deal.
Sorry, but no special conditions planned

trmupstage
KVRist
246 posts since 25 Sep, 2002 from Chicago

Re: TBProAudio: CS-3301 - Channel Strip Plugin for Windows and Mac OS X

Post Sun Nov 19, 2017 8:46 am

Found another problem in Nuendo 8.1. When CS-3301 is on two linked mono tracks, such as overheads, changing the values in the left instance does not change it in the right and visa-versa. All plugins used in linked channels make changes to both channels at the same time.

Hmmm... nevermind. It's now working fine with the VST3 version. Maybe it was a Nuendo issue.

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TB-ProAudio
KVRist
443 posts since 16 May, 2014 from Germany

Re: TBProAudio: CS-3301 - Channel Strip Plugin for Windows and Mac OS X

Post Sun Nov 19, 2017 10:09 pm

Update to 1.4.3:
- Preset prev/next hang fix
- VST2: bypass fix

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TB-ProAudio
KVRist
443 posts since 16 May, 2014 from Germany

Re: TBProAudio: CS-3301 - Channel Strip Plugin for Windows and Mac OS X

Post Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:44 pm

trmupstage wrote:Found another problem in Nuendo 8.1. When CS-3301 is on two linked mono tracks, such as overheads, changing the values in the left instance does not change it in the right and visa-versa. All plugins used in linked channels make changes to both channels at the same time.
hmm, how do you setup linked mono tracks in Cubase/Nuendo ?
Thank you.

Halonmusic
KVRAF
1658 posts since 13 Nov, 2015 from Norway

Re: TBProAudio: CS-3301 - Channel Strip Plugin for Windows and Mac OS X

Post Mon Nov 20, 2017 3:47 am

Looks great! :tu:

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el-bo (formerly ebow)
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10658 posts since 24 May, 2009 from A galaxy, far far away

Re: TBProAudio: CS-3301 - Channel Strip Plugin for Windows and Mac OS X

Post Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:17 am

Demoing this plug again.

Seems to get so many things right. However, a bit of a strange decision to have all parameters defaulting to hard-left positions, as opposed to 0db. Because touching any parameter engages the section (Which is great), it means that as soon as you touch something it defaults to a cut.

Also getting nasty thumps/clicks when engaging the '2X' button, and using the bypass (Daw).

Logic 10.3.2

trmupstage
KVRist
246 posts since 25 Sep, 2002 from Chicago

Re: TBProAudio: CS-3301 - Channel Strip Plugin for Windows and Mac OS X

Post Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:38 am

el-bo,
I haven't seen that problem at all with this. The default for me is all bands as a gain of 0. so, it works as I expect it to. Which version are you using? I'm also guessing you are on Mac? I'm on Win10.

On a side note, does anyone know any history of TBProAudio? Who are they? Where did they come from? So many devs here are well known, as they have been part of the community for many years. I'm just curious on the back story to these guys (or guy). Not sure if it's just one guy or a small team or ...? Not that it makes a lot of difference, but it does help to know history before parting with cash...

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el-bo (formerly ebow)
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10658 posts since 24 May, 2009 from A galaxy, far far away

Re: TBProAudio: CS-3301 - Channel Strip Plugin for Windows and Mac OS X

Post Mon Nov 20, 2017 8:13 am

trmupstage wrote:el-bo,
I haven't seen that problem at all with this. The default for me is all bands as a gain of 0. so, it works as I expect it to. Which version are you using? I'm also guessing you are on Mac? I'm on Win10.
Running latest build in Logic pro (OSX)

This is the default state :wink:

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trmupstage
KVRist
246 posts since 25 Sep, 2002 from Chicago

Re: TBProAudio: CS-3301 - Channel Strip Plugin for Windows and Mac OS X

Post Mon Nov 20, 2017 8:21 am

That would be pretty hard to work with. Actually, a deal breaker. It must be a Mac only thing as it is working on PC OK. So far, the fixes I've needed, they came through with fast. I'm sure they will jump into this thread soon.

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el-bo (formerly ebow)
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10658 posts since 24 May, 2009 from A galaxy, far far away

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Post Mon Nov 20, 2017 8:31 am

trmupstage wrote:That would be pretty hard to work with. Actually, a deal breaker. It must be a Mac only thing as it is working on PC OK. So far, the fixes I've needed, they came through with fast. I'm sure they will jump into this thread soon.
To be honest, it's not too difficult to set a new default preset in Logic. However, I am sure it's not the 'expected' behaviour, and I'm sure it's easy for the developer to correct.

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TB-ProAudio
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443 posts since 16 May, 2014 from Germany

Re: TBProAudio: CS-3301 - Channel Strip Plugin for Windows and Mac OS X

Post Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:14 am

el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:
Running latest build in Logic pro (OSX)

This is the default state :wink:

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Well, this looks bad, right! This is definitively not the default parameter set!!!
Hmm, could you please reinstall the plugin?
What is happening if you witch to another preset?
Is this Logic X only or Reaper as well?

We are investigating this, but nothing found so far...

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el-bo (formerly ebow)
KVRAF
10658 posts since 24 May, 2009 from A galaxy, far far away

Re: TBProAudio: CS-3301 - Channel Strip Plugin for Windows and Mac OS X

Post Mon Nov 20, 2017 11:01 am

TB-ProAudio wrote:
el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:
Running latest build in Logic pro (OSX)

This is the default state :wink:

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Well, this looks bad, right! This is definitively not the default parameter set!!!
Hmm, could you please reinstall the plugin?
What is happening if you witch to another preset?
Is this Logic X only or Reaper as well?

We are investigating this, but nothing found so far...
Reinstalling worked :tu: How bizarre :scared:

Thanks

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