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noiseboyuk · Post by **noiseboyuk** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:43 am

Huh - where is Arp / Seq in the NKS universe, Mario? Presumably another field?

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:45 am

That is a Mode, not Type.

spunkmuffin · Post by **spunkmuffin** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 11:45 am

EvilDragon wrote:Default NKS tags:

If u-he is going for NKS compatibility, these main category tags should be respected, when possible. Simple as that. Don't care about how "comfortable" somebody is about a certain category being main or not.

Hmm well the NKS list looks like it was designed for sample libraries. But for u-he we are using synths (and stuff). The NKS list looks like a good list for sample libraries. Hope I don't have to respect it in the u-he universe.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 11:54 am

Not really - it's essentially the same list that was developed for NI Kore - which was designed for Komplete as a whole, and which back then was more synth focussed than NI's current line up.

spunkmuffin · Post by **spunkmuffin** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:06 pm

Yes really - in that list Synth Lead, Synth Misc and Synth Pad are down th bottom. Come off it! That is so sub-optimal inside Repro...and we are inside Repro.
I far prefer the u-he 01, 02, 03 top ten list where you are not enslaved to the alphabet.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:08 pm

You're missing the point, but whatever.

spunkmuffin · Post by **spunkmuffin** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:16 pm

I might be missing your point. I don't think I am missing the point. But whatever.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:30 pm

spunkmuffin wrote:Yes really - in that list Synth Lead, Synth Misc and Synth Pad are down th bottom. Come off it! That is so sub-optimal inside Repro...and we are inside Repro.
I far prefer the u-he 01, 02, 03 top ten list where you are not enslaved to the alphabet.

It's just alphabetical order, doesn't reflect any other priorities than trying to be neutral and comprehensive, at the time that list was developed NI wasn't so into its current sample library craze and Kore, Massive and Reaktor were very much priorities. So it was not designed mainly for sample libraries. The categories are what we were discussing, not the order they are in, which can easily be arranged differently.

spunkmuffin · Post by **spunkmuffin** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:41 pm

Look, if you want to use the NKS list then surely there should be a way to make it optional. I personally don't want to have to see that list in my u-he synths.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:46 pm

Of course it's optional, you choose the categories your presets epitomise and ignore the rest. But I know already that I have a wide selection of patches in Repro 5 that could be spread over every one of those categories (apart from 'multitrack' which I never understood what it meant) so it's wise to have the options available even in a classic synth. btw just look at the Prophet 5 factory patch list

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:12 pm

spunkmuffin wrote:Look, if you want to use the NKS list then surely there should be a way to make it optional. I personally don't want to have to see that list in my u-he synths.

They're not YOUR synths. They're u-he's.

spunkmuffin · Post by **spunkmuffin** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:39 pm

EvilDragon stop trolling me!

When u-he brings out a sample library the NKS list might be a good idea. Urs could you make a Brass library? U-he Brassy Balls and Horny Trumpets...fully NKS compatible!

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:13 pm

NKS is not about sample libraries at all. You just keep missing the point.

Let's just say Arturia, Xils and Waldorf synths also use NKS and they also have Brass as the main category. Case closed, now get off my lawn (I do NKS integrations for living, how about you?)!

spunkmuffin · Post by **spunkmuffin** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:19 pm

Synth Lead, Synth Misc and Synth Pad are gratuitous descriptions. I know I am in a synth! Duh!

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 3:17 pm

Of course that "Synth" prefix can be omitted in u-he's browser - but when doing NKS integration of patches, u-he "Pads" tag would be linked to NKS "Synth Pad" tag as main category, etc. This is again beside the point we're making here - which is that there are some sorely missing main category tags in the current u-he browser. Yes, like "Brass", for example.

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