This is exactly why I hate Roland and their stupid trigger for pitch and mod. Works well as a pitchbend but is a terrible modwheel. I'll have to edit the patch to work around my stupid controller.Ingonator wrote:The Modhweel sets the PWM amount so do not set this to 0.
Repro-5 public beta (Repro V1.1)
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Funkybot's Evil Twin Funkybot's Evil Twin https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=116627
- KVRAF
- 12443 posts since 16 Aug, 2006
- KVRist
- 122 posts since 14 Sep, 2017
Anyone else think RePro-5 can already get those creamier Rev. 2 and T-8 sounds already for some reason ?
Urs wrote:I can't say that yet. The filter maybe, the VCOs and envelopes certainly not.HunterKiller wrote:Urs will you, at a later stage, emulate the Rev 2 filter?
I feel uncomfortable dissecting a P-5 Rev2 while SSM 2040 are too rare to replace. There are hopes for new batches of these chips, but I'm not gonna kill off a 7k collector synth for this feature.
(I bought a Crumar Trilogy and stuff, we have CEM 3320 in abundance)
- KVRAF
- 12522 posts since 21 Mar, 2008 from Hannover, Germany
I just found that i have to use the "red arrow" left to the Modwheel to keep the modulation amount saved with the patch.Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote:This is exactly why I hate Roland and their stupid trigger for pitch and mod. Works well as a pitchbend but is a terrible modwheel. I'll have to edit the patch to work around my stupid controller.Ingonator wrote:The Modhweel sets the PWM amount so do not set this to 0.
The Modwheel itself seems to be global and is not saved with the host project.
UPDATE:
I updated my patch posted at the previous page with the "red arrow" at the Modwheel set to the right mod amount which is then saved with the patch.
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Win 10 Home 64-bit / mobile i7-7700HQ 2.8 GHz / 16GB RAM //
Live 10 Suite / Cubase Pro 9.5 / Pro Tools Ultimate 2021 // NI Komplete Kontrol S61 Mk1
- KVRAF
- 24411 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
I guess it can get in the ballpark, but really that SSM filter is quite different.synth_punk wrote:Anyone else think RePro-5 can already get those creamier Rev. 2 and T-8 sounds already for some reason ?
Some examples from actual rev2 and rev3 (not 1:1 comparisons): http://www.babic.com/SYN/p5r2.htm
You can clearly hear the difference in how filter behaves even though they're not the same sounds.
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- KVRAF
- 3499 posts since 9 Oct, 2004 from Poland
That "touch of reverb" on these examples disqualifies them for our purposes.EvilDragon wrote:I guess it can get in the ballpark, but really that SSM filter is quite different.synth_punk wrote:Anyone else think RePro-5 can already get those creamier Rev. 2 and T-8 sounds already for some reason ?
Some examples from actual rev2 and rev3 (not 1:1 comparisons): http://www.babic.com/SYN/p5r2.htm
You can clearly hear the difference in how filter behaves even though they're not the same sounds.
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- KVRist
- 47 posts since 9 Sep, 2011
My patch 'HelloCello", absolutely no post processing, except Soundcloud's sphincter-like compression codec.
https://soundcloud.com/user-733335225/repro5-hellocello
https://soundcloud.com/user-733335225/repro5-hellocello
- KVRAF
- 24411 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
Not really, since it's the same preset on all of them. You can still hear the difference in the filter, even through the reverb.Mutant wrote:That "touch of reverb" on these examples disqualifies them for our purposes.EvilDragon wrote:I guess it can get in the ballpark, but really that SSM filter is quite different.synth_punk wrote:Anyone else think RePro-5 can already get those creamier Rev. 2 and T-8 sounds already for some reason ?
Some examples from actual rev2 and rev3 (not 1:1 comparisons): http://www.babic.com/SYN/p5r2.htm
You can clearly hear the difference in how filter behaves even though they're not the same sounds.
- KVRAF
- 2175 posts since 10 Mar, 2006
That indeed is a beautiful filter
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- KVRAF
- 2429 posts since 11 Jan, 2009 from Portland, OR, USA
Hi guys, I asked two questions about five pages back that seem to have been ignored / overlooked / lost in the thread, could somebody chime in on these points, or is there somewhere else I should be asking such things? Thanks!
1. Is it expected behavior that activating Velvet results in a noticeable gain boost, even if mode = default and Input Knob = 0 ? Not an issue if so, obviously I can offset with output or Sonic Conditioner, I just wanted to make sure this was the intended behavior of the device.
2. When using multiple voices and playing various keys, I've been watching the Voice Panners on the tweaks page. *Most* of the time, the voices progress by 1 to the right with each successive note press. However, sometimes after I've played for a while and then look at it again, they appear to be jumping around instead --not at random, necessarily, but just no longer in the left-to-right, 1 step movement as before. For instance today I somehow got to a point where all playing would reach the end and then jump to Voice 4, then to 1, progressing toward 4 again, then somewhere closer to the end, and then after 8 jump back to 4..... I couldn't figure out what I'd done to "break" the previous simple left to right voice Progression. There's probably something about Voicing I'm just not understanding here, but I'd like to have a better grasp of it, if an explanation is available....
1. Is it expected behavior that activating Velvet results in a noticeable gain boost, even if mode = default and Input Knob = 0 ? Not an issue if so, obviously I can offset with output or Sonic Conditioner, I just wanted to make sure this was the intended behavior of the device.
2. When using multiple voices and playing various keys, I've been watching the Voice Panners on the tweaks page. *Most* of the time, the voices progress by 1 to the right with each successive note press. However, sometimes after I've played for a while and then look at it again, they appear to be jumping around instead --not at random, necessarily, but just no longer in the left-to-right, 1 step movement as before. For instance today I somehow got to a point where all playing would reach the end and then jump to Voice 4, then to 1, progressing toward 4 again, then somewhere closer to the end, and then after 8 jump back to 4..... I couldn't figure out what I'd done to "break" the previous simple left to right voice Progression. There's probably something about Voicing I'm just not understanding here, but I'd like to have a better grasp of it, if an explanation is available....
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- Topic Starter
- 30188 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
In future the plug-in will load with one of the presets selected. A boost si always possible at 0dB gain, depending on the various settings within the preset itself (it's basically a full blown Satin studio mode preset).mholloway wrote:1. Is it expected behavior that activating Velvet results in a noticeable gain boost, even if mode = default and Input Knob = 0 ? Not an issue if so, obviously I can offset with output or Sonic Conditioner, I just wanted to make sure this was the intended behavior of the device.
Once you have overlapping notes, the order of voices might change.2. When using multiple voices and playing various keys, I've been watching the Voice Panners on the tweaks page. *Most* of the time, the voices progress by 1 to the right with each successive note press. However, sometimes after I've played for a while and then look at it again, they appear to be jumping around instead --not at random, necessarily, but just no longer in the left-to-right, 1 step movement as before. For instance today I somehow got to a point where all playing would reach the end and then jump to Voice 4, then to 1, progressing toward 4 again, then somewhere closer to the end, and then after 8 jump back to 4..... I couldn't figure out what I'd done to "break" the previous simple left to right voice Progression. There's probably something about Voicing I'm just not understanding here, but I'd like to have a better grasp of it, if an explanation is available....
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- KVRAF
- 2429 posts since 11 Jan, 2009 from Portland, OR, USA
As suggested by some other posts in this thread, I've been comparing performance (non-scientifically, mind you) of RePro-5 between Ableton Live 10 and Bitwig Studio 2 -- for me, for whatever reason, it's MUCH better in Bitwig, which seems to echo some other users here. I'm on a 2016 i7 iMac, fwiw.
In Bitwig 2 I can generally run about 5 or 6 instances of RePro-5 with CPU usage heavy, but bearable -- no dropouts, no overloads, etc. In Live 10 (beta), this same number causes major CPU overloads.
Interestingly, In Live 10, turning MC on makes the CPU go up. Conversely, turning MC on in Bitwig makes the CPU go down. Basically as long as I turn MC on, I can get a lot of mileage out of RePro-5 in bitwig studio.
I've been sailing on the good ship Bitwig lately anyway, so this works out conveniently for me
In Bitwig 2 I can generally run about 5 or 6 instances of RePro-5 with CPU usage heavy, but bearable -- no dropouts, no overloads, etc. In Live 10 (beta), this same number causes major CPU overloads.
Interestingly, In Live 10, turning MC on makes the CPU go up. Conversely, turning MC on in Bitwig makes the CPU go down. Basically as long as I turn MC on, I can get a lot of mileage out of RePro-5 in bitwig studio.
I've been sailing on the good ship Bitwig lately anyway, so this works out conveniently for me
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- KVRist
- 122 posts since 6 Nov, 2011
Hi everyone.
I feel stupid after reading 35 pages of how great the repro 5 beta sounds. I have been trying to get it running on my linux laptop for a couple of days without any luck. Both Ardour and Carla refuses to accept the vst and I have no ideas how to get it going.
I am using KXStudio 64-bit (Ubuntu 14.04 from falktx)
Note that I have been and still is running:
Presswerk, Satin, Zebra2, ZebraHZ, Hive, Diva and lots of other plugins, Even Repro-1 is working great unless I install the latest Repro-1/5 beta..
I am glad it sounds totally awesome, it seems reading all positive comments..
/Anders
I feel stupid after reading 35 pages of how great the repro 5 beta sounds. I have been trying to get it running on my linux laptop for a couple of days without any luck. Both Ardour and Carla refuses to accept the vst and I have no ideas how to get it going.
I am using KXStudio 64-bit (Ubuntu 14.04 from falktx)
Note that I have been and still is running:
Presswerk, Satin, Zebra2, ZebraHZ, Hive, Diva and lots of other plugins, Even Repro-1 is working great unless I install the latest Repro-1/5 beta..
I am glad it sounds totally awesome, it seems reading all positive comments..
/Anders
- KVRAF
- 2275 posts since 4 Dec, 2011 from Brasília, Brazil
I can, later this week. But it seems that Ingo is working on creating a R-5 version of all patches, don't?Greggers wrote:Thank you, Walter. Can you do the same for SyncII?Here's is Sync 1 from Ingo patches, fixed for Repro-5.
My soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/waltercruz
- KVRAF
- 2275 posts since 4 Dec, 2011 from Brasília, Brazil
Bazille?ATN69 wrote:Make a nice FM synth u-he style..no need to be modelled on anything. U-he have no dedicated FM Synth and other ones out there are hopelessly outdated with small GUI and a workflows that require a lot of studying.
My soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/waltercruz
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krismiller1982 krismiller1982 https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=318225
- KVRist
- 86 posts since 11 Dec, 2013
Is it possible to remove the stepping that occurs when controlling the filter cut-off with a MIDI CC? I know you have fine adjustments as a separate parameter, but I was hoping to achieve a smoother full range response. Would I need a 14bit controller? Or could a Max device or Pure Data convert regular 7-bit MIDI into something with more steps? Im also open to using OSC. Thank you for you time in helping me find a solution.
