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Simple Q: - I see there is the full MULAB and also the VST. Are they fully separate products, or does purchase of the 'full' MULAB *include* the use of the VST for other DAW's? I need the VST for sure, but if it is included in the larger package, I would consider that instead. Thanks!

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Oh, I think I get it - they are separate, but can get the pair for 99 EUR - sorry!

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No need to be sorry. :)

Yes if you want to use the MUX patches in another host you'd need the VST version. But MuLab is an excellent host so in case you don't currently use another one then you can perhaps stay happy with MuLab only (that's what I am doing). In other words you can still make MUX patches in MuLab with the MuLab license (like the MuT8 multi effect I uploaded here yesterday).
Thu Oct 01, 2020 1:15 pm Passing Bye wrote:
"look at SparkySpark's post 4 posts up, let that sink in for a moment"
Go MuLab!

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Protocol_b wrote:Oh, I think I get it - they are separate, but can get the pair for 99 EUR - sorry!
Mulab includes MuX but it is integral to the DAW not for use as VST.
MuX is a separate entity for use in other DAW's
:hyper: :phones: :hyper:

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Many thanks for your replies! If MULAB was JUST a little more live-play oriented I would love to stick with it alone, but for now it looks like Ableton is going to have to be included. Which is too bad because Ableton's MIDI routing is a tad pathetic. Thanks again folks! :)

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With Mux inside Mulab, you can build some patches for live play. MUX's step sequencer and sequence player assigned to a bunch of pads (note event pad or drum pad) and linked to a midi controler, and you have something that would be much more complicated to build with the more expensive Live.
These pads can lauch midi sequences, audio loops, effects, chords. I've already built some live oriented tools, that can run inside Mulab or another DAW.

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I can see that working for a single song, but not sure how I could effectively set up a whole set. I play on multiple channels (midi guitar) and control large groupings of VST's which differ between songs. I think the RAM & CPU would be overtaxed by having them all held 'active' at the same time. If MULAB even had a 'next song' button it would be helpful.

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I don't do live stuff nowadays but there is at least one MUX effect preset for live use specifically. Also note that MuLab and MUX itself are super easy on the CPU, so perhaps you can run multiple instances of them?

If you want to, take my MUX (MuT8) as it is a multi effect, and just replace some settings or modules with your own - it is very easy. I find it easier and more creative to work with that alone than to hook up a bunch of plugins for every rack. It would be even more suitable in a live situation.
Thu Oct 01, 2020 1:15 pm Passing Bye wrote:
"look at SparkySpark's post 4 posts up, let that sink in for a moment"
Go MuLab!

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I run 50 copies of Mux when I'm drumming, so I can select kits quickly - when one isn't active, it takes pretty much no CPU. (Admittedly, with drum kits, I do use almost all of by 32GB of RAM but I need them ready, rather than waiting for them to load.)

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