He clearly needs a time out...braj wrote:Yeah, like I said, niche product, but this guy repeatedly says it will put softsynths out of business, that VST developers are exploiting us all, that users that disagree with him are selling synths etcpdxindy wrote:I like the idea of a full featured poly analog synth the size of a wallet+... great for travel!braj wrote:But it does make the point that there are plenty of great software options, free and commercial, that make this dongle idea a potentially nice niche product and not a game changer.![]()
Tone2 I2 vs Trueno Analog
- KVRAF
- 26963 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
- KVRAF
- 26963 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
Sure... different people want different things...chk071 wrote:TBH, like has been said before in this thread, i think i'd rather go for something like the Behringer D, and spend a little more money, to get some hands on control, if i'd really be "on the market" for a analog synth (which i'm not sure i am). Can only speak for myself, but, IF a hardware synth, then surely not one which i have to control via a VST. There's no benefit i'd see then, apart from maybe 5% better sound.
The Behringer D is big (comparatively), needs power and does not integrate as a plugin in the DAW.
The other benefit is the CPU use. Be very cool to have a poly analog so tiny.
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- KVRer
- 1 posts since 2 Dec, 2017
Korg Minilogue (and others) use the same sort of digital VCO control... it allows the use of less expensive analog circuitry and compensating the response as needed. e.g. You can use the computer to sweep the VCO response and create a lookup table to have the tweaked value needed to get the desired pitch. Does away with more expensive and complex analog circuitry so cheaper...
"Seems interesting... I appreciate a fresh concept!
One funny thing... "Trueno has three highly stable digitally controlled VCOs with automatic tuning"
Uh... if it is digitally controlled, it is not a VCO "
"Seems interesting... I appreciate a fresh concept!
One funny thing... "Trueno has three highly stable digitally controlled VCOs with automatic tuning"
Uh... if it is digitally controlled, it is not a VCO "
- KVRAF
- 6210 posts since 25 Dec, 2004
great idea
sounds pretty good from the limited demos available.
Cheap! Great!
but quite stupid shape. For the Macbook users, it will make the other port unusable.
Would have been so much smarter to have it built with a very short extension cable, not only to be able to lower profile, but to be less open to mishaps (or perhaps easier fixable) if it gets knocked.
sounds pretty good from the limited demos available.
Cheap! Great!
but quite stupid shape. For the Macbook users, it will make the other port unusable.
Would have been so much smarter to have it built with a very short extension cable, not only to be able to lower profile, but to be less open to mishaps (or perhaps easier fixable) if it gets knocked.
sketches... http://soundcloud.com/onesnzeros
some artists i support... https://bandcamp.com/spectraselecta
some artists i support... https://bandcamp.com/spectraselecta
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- KVRAF
- 8413 posts since 4 Jul, 2012 from Alesia
wagtunes wrote:Ask Layzer. He seems to know what they are.braj wrote:Someone please point me to a free synth that sounds as good as Repro-1 and 5, or Diva.
Do you think he would even use a i7 Laptop capable of running Repro-5 if someone just gave it to him?
- KVRAF
- 9096 posts since 5 Feb, 2004
Who is "he?" the OP? btw I'll take one, thank youV0RT3X wrote:wagtunes wrote:Ask Layzer. He seems to know what they are.braj wrote:Someone please point me to a free synth that sounds as good as Repro-1 and 5, or Diva.
Do you think he would even use a i7 Laptop capable of running Repro-5 if someone just gave it to him?
If you have requests for Korg VST features or changes, they are listening at https://support.korguser.net/hc/en-us/requests/new
- KVRAF
- 22972 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
Layzer is our resident "Synth1 can make all the sounds that Omnisphere can make for free" expert. He believes free synths are just as good, if not better, than all the paid synths and. as he calls it, bloatware.braj wrote:Who is "he?" the OP? btw I'll take one, thank youV0RT3X wrote:wagtunes wrote:Ask Layzer. He seems to know what they are.braj wrote:Someone please point me to a free synth that sounds as good as Repro-1 and 5, or Diva.
Do you think he would even use a i7 Laptop capable of running Repro-5 if someone just gave it to him?
The funny thing is, if you check his signature, he has all these "paid for" hardware synths.
So you kind of have to take what he says with a grain of salt.
- KVRAF
- 9096 posts since 5 Feb, 2004
Yeah, same with the OP, he thinks software developers are nefarious, but hardware developers have come to rescue us all from zombies. Or something.
If you have requests for Korg VST features or changes, they are listening at https://support.korguser.net/hc/en-us/requests/new
- KVRAF
- 8074 posts since 9 Jan, 2003 from Saint Louis MO
I was going to throw some Steam statistics out there as a counter, and then I noticed that 64% of Steam users have Chinese as their OS languagechk071 wrote:One might add though that that is largely due to the amount of Windows 7 installations in countries like China and India...
So anyway, I'm at least confident saying Windows 7 is still popular among the would-be target market for this device (whether it's #1 or not).
Another disadvantage this has that software doesn't: you can't demo it. Given potential compatibility problems, that seems like a big flaw.
- KVRAF
- 2726 posts since 2 Jun, 2016
@OP, apologies for assuming in your opening post that you were representing the company (hence my comment about the links).
However, I remain unconvinced by this product's supposed appeal (beyond that of dozens of other existing synths), for reasons previously expressed by myself and others on these pages.
Also this is not 'finally' REAL ANALOG, when I can easily perform with my 1974 Roland hardware synth. It is a gamble by the company which at £140 may, or may not, see them make inroads in a heavily saturated market. Time will tell.
However, I remain unconvinced by this product's supposed appeal (beyond that of dozens of other existing synths), for reasons previously expressed by myself and others on these pages.
Also this is not 'finally' REAL ANALOG, when I can easily perform with my 1974 Roland hardware synth. It is a gamble by the company which at £140 may, or may not, see them make inroads in a heavily saturated market. Time will tell.
- KVRAF
- 1908 posts since 7 Jan, 2004 from Earth
Yep I'm far from an expert but it sounds like complete marketing lie, isn't it?AnX wrote:Real Analogue.... on a USB stick....erm....
I like the sound, though
- KVRAF
- 2175 posts since 10 Mar, 2006
AnX wrote:Real Analogue.... on a USB stick....erm....
"The educated person is one who knows how to find out what he does not know" - George Simmel
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"I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me." - Jesus Christ
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- KVRAF
- 12095 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales
Comes down to....
How good does it sound
How much latency is introduced
Does it aggregate well
Need a good unbiased review, surely someone must have beta tested this? Nothing on YouTube?
How good does it sound
How much latency is introduced
Does it aggregate well
Need a good unbiased review, surely someone must have beta tested this? Nothing on YouTube?
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- KVRAF
- 24417 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
It's possible with surface-mount tech and high level of integration in ICs.AnX wrote:Real Analogue.... on a USB stick....erm....
