One Synth Challenge #106: FB-3100/3200/3300 by Full Bucket Music (Jasinski Wins!)

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Guenon wrote:There's no patch switching at all.
double-wtf?! that's even more ridiculous than I thought. Big up man!

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mmGhost wrote:
Guenon wrote:There's no patch switching at all.
double-wtf?! that's even more ridiculous than I thought. Big up man!
:D !

Yeah, I think I'll mention this detail in the youtube video description, for future times.

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z.prime wrote:Guenon's always been on fire. God mode was activated well before he first submitted an OSC track. Many, many years ago.

(I didn't notice this because my stalking drone has been inactive for a few days. I think he found it and destroyed it...)
I have a backup drone.
Goto https://192.168.0.1/
User admin
Password 1234

But I think Guenon hacked it because it only shows pictures of cats.

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Full Bucket wrote:Folks,

I have updated the FB-3X00 series to versions 1.1.4, 1.0.1, and 1.0.3 respectively:
  • fixed parameter reset on Start/Stop (AU version)
  • fixed Renoise crashes
  • reorganized Options menu
Get it here: https://www.fullbucket.de/music/vst.html

Thanks for hunting the bugs and your feedback! :tu:

Cheers, Björn
WOW! That's very awesome. You are the man Björn.

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did we get some clarity from BJ on if we can use all 3 or we need to choose 1 for the track?

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jasinski wrote:WOW! That's very awesome. You are the man Björn.
Big thanks back to you! :oops:

Cheers, Björn

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Guenon wrote:Not sure whether I'll enter this, but I'm sure some of you will find this literal one synth exercise entertaining :D
I totally agree with everyone else: This is absolutely amazing and one of the best and most inspiring things I've heard at OSC! Hats off, Sir!
Failure is success in progress.

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Guenon wrote:
H-man wrote:I'm intrigued tho (and often a little slow on the uptake :roll: ) is this patch switching or extensive automation ....or both?
There's no patch switching at all. What I'm doing is, I'm using one single patch in that one FB-3100 instance for the whole duration, feeding it MIDI notes and controlling 10 different parameters with automation curves. There's no custom trickery in the way the automation works, no Ableton Live specific functionality or recalled instrument states. Just basic note events and automation curves, edited 100% by hand, not using generators or modulators of any kind for that parameter control. So the audible end result is achievable in any host. I think I'll describe the process more, with some practical examples here, when I post this on Soundcloud.

The key to sounding like that, and using only one instance in doing so, is asking what you need to do in order to get a particular sound color out of the synth, and what you can do at the same time or seemingly at the same time so that it gives an impression of functionally separate things happening simultaneously :). Aesthetically this goes both ways, the end result sounds like this because it's done in that manner (a lot of sequential stuff happening in fast succession instead of multiple things layered with one another), and it can be a goal in itself, as an overall grungy sound, not necessarily a compromise.

Thanks for making these synths Björn, they rock, hadn't used any of them before.
Okay wow :clap: Thx for the details :hug: I think I could hear the linearity for moments but the overall impression is of something far more complex. The whole "Challenge inside a Challenge" thing as well ...it's just .....wtf? :lol:
jasinski wrote:
Full Bucket wrote:
Folks,

I have updated the FB-3X00 series to versions 1.1.4, 1.0.1, and 1.0.3 respectively:
  • fixed parameter reset on Start/Stop (AU version)
  • fixed Renoise crashes
  • reorganized Options menu
Get it here: <span class="skimlinks-unlinked">https: ... tml</span>

Thanks for hunting the bugs and your feedback! :tu:

Cheers, Björn
WOW! That's very awesome. You are the man Björn.
Ditto - thanks again Björn

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jasinski wrote:did we get some clarity from BJ on if we can use all 3 or we need to choose 1 for the track?
Agreed, it's not really clear. Brian, can we get a ruling?

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Wotsup?

I try to download the updated VST's (windows) and all I get is a page with this text on it ...

dl/count/fb3300_1_0_3_winvst.txt
fb3300_1_0_3_winvst.zip

Same for 3100 and 3200

Cheers,

dB

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doctorbob wrote:Wotsup?
Sorry, some website maintenance... should work again! :oops:

Cheers, Björn

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H-man wrote:The whole "Challenge inside a Challenge" thing as well ...it's just .....wtf? :lol:
It's something I enjoy doing even when not making a separate mention of it :) (that is, constricting myself further and seeing what comes up), as it often imparts a particular aesthetic on the sound I wouldn't have found otherwise, like I wrote previously. Using just one instance is of course an extreme case of that sort of experimentation.

But for example, for a good while (some days) in the Thorn round, I used the synth with all oscillators disabled. As the synth has a noise module and the default installation contains a selection of short noise WAVs, I decided to approach the synth as a lo-fi sampler with a very limited pool of source samples to pull from -- that is, the default WAVs it installs with.

So early experiments like this (pardon the demo hiss as I'm rendering now, I don't have a Thorn license :P )

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ab9rwh3rxte6h ... e.mp3?dl=0

were made only by tuning the default samples in the noise module, adjusting the start offsets and finding resonances within those sounds, seeing how aliasing brings things forth using the lo-fi effects module and filters and so on. Tweaked further from there, this yilded a "lo-fi sample scratching" feel on many sounds, as that's what it basically is. This gave a variety of colors even with the handful of source samples.

By setting the glitch sequencer length to 1 there was another pair of stable filters (very limited ones, but still) that could be placed after the lo-fi and distortion modules without sacrificing the main filters -- if they could be placed there in the first place, that is -- and then automated.

I strictly didn't want to import anything into the spectrum modules, constructing everything inside the synth, but still wanted to have some kind of speech related stuff, so I made the word-like things at a couple of points in the track by sequencing similarly lo-fi aliased sounds, and so on.

Okay enough about that. The important thing for me in all of that is, when you change your approach you also change the outcome. Sometimes the outcome of a restricted experiment can actually be novel or desirable over a non-restricted approach. Probably not so evident in the Thorn track, but the aesthetic in the FB-3100 one I personally enjoy a lot, as I'm partial to lo-fi groovin' like that :D
Last edited by Guenon on Tue Dec 05, 2017 2:47 pm, edited 3 times in total.

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So strange, I could've sworn one could sync the AM modulation frequency with the Keys?! Though, it still has KEY as input, the voltage ramp doesn't line up with the note frequency ramp, so to say. I really thought it was working before for some reason?! :shrug: ...strange.
Maybe I'm missing something or had accidentally done something "right" earlier? :help:

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Taron wrote:So strange, I could've sworn one could sync the AM modulation frequency with the Keys?!
That's my semi-strong recollection as well? Maybe it works only in one/some of the models. Didn't use it in my experiment though, so don't know for sure.

Edit: tried it in 3100 (init patch) and it works, maybe there's something funky with the patch or it's broken in some other model?

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Full Bucket wrote:
doctorbob wrote:Wotsup?
Sorry, some website maintenance... should work again! :oops:

Cheers, Björn
Yup, thanks - all hunky dory!

dB

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