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Urs · Post by **Urs** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:11 pm

PhilG wrote:
4damind wrote:Great and good to see an improved multi-thread/multi-core handling
In my case it feels just like the opposite.

Many 8 voice patches cause crackles here with a single note played.
Multi Core on/off doesn´t have a large impact.

3rd Gen i7 3630QM, 256 buffer size, Windows 10 Pro 1709 64bit

Try experimenting with the number of threads setting in the preferences. I reckon that No. of physical cores - 1 is a good idea, so 3 threads on a quad core machine.

Garrincha · Post by **Garrincha** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:44 pm

Urs wrote: Try experimenting with the number of threads setting in the preferences. I reckon that No. of physical cores - 1 is a good idea, so 3 threads on a quad core machine.

Not in Cubendo land with Windows 10 and Intel, as far as I'm concerned.

I run an older i7 3820 @ 3600 MHz (not really a whopping CPU by current standards) and I run Cubase 9.5 with Cubase' multicore option enabled. And even then Repro-5 runs best when setting it to 8 cores. With that setting I get 8 voices at roughly 30% of the ASIO-meter in Cubase. When I set it on 4 cores (which seems logical since I only have 4 physical cores) the same patch uses 50% and with Repro set on 3 cores I'm at 65% on the ASIO meter.

Bottom line: Repro seems to scale pretty well and it does not conflict with Cubase own MC-option. Looks like the multithreading is very well implemented in both, Repro-5 and Cubase.

Well done, Urs!

Garrincha · Post by **Garrincha** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:11 pm

Another very nice easter egg in RC1 ist the addition of the 1978 factory patches. Found them when I was filtering by authors and saw "John Bowen" among them.

Did John finally gave his blessing to supply his own historic patches?

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:14 pm

Garrincha wrote:Another very nice easter egg in RC1 ist the addition of the 1978 factory patches. Found them when I was filtering by authors and saw "John Bowen" among them.

Did John finally gave his blessing to supply his own historic patches?

Urs commented on this here:
viewtopic.php?f=31&t=495500&start=30

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:47 pm

Many thanks for the updates and the huge amount of factory presets.

I did not check all presets but i searched for a nice lush synth string patch i could use to layer with Arturia Piano V2 which i am currently checking too.
I found a preset from Howard called "HS Emo Strings" which is just beautiful IMO.

This is close to the sound i had in my mind for doing a synt hstrings patch in the near future but it seems to be difficult to do something better than this one (but of course i will do several strings patches too as Repro-5 is perfect for that, same about Synth Brass). The patch might not be super complex but complexity does not matter to make a patch sound great.

zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:02 pm

EvilDragon wrote:
zvenx wrote:Not sure what is causing it though, my pc is significantly faster in theory than the mac, but update database takes 7 seconds on pc but less than a second on the mac.... Mac is on SSD though and PC isn't.
There's your answer.

Actually now I have gone thru all 900 presets and tagged my favourites on the PC it takes like 23-26 seconds.
Certainly a workflow killer, for me anyway.
How come Repro-1 which had the same amount of presets didn't behave like this in the previous beta?

I wish it did like Abysnth and Massive which would scan the database after loading after showing you presets and working in the background.
rsp

rockbottom · Post by **rockbottom** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:18 pm

what does rsp mean ?

zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:27 pm

rockbottom wrote:what does rsp mean ?

Its my initials.

richard sven patterson.
Why?
rsp

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:56 pm

zvenx wrote:Actually now I have gone thru all 900 presets and tagged my favourites on the PC it takes like 23-26 seconds.
Certainly a workflow killer, for me anyway.

Well that's serious... I don't wanna be a partypooper, but perhaps do a disk check? It might be starting to fail slowly. If that checks out, perhaps defrag the drive?

zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:59 pm

EvilDragon wrote:
zvenx wrote:Actually now I have gone thru all 900 presets and tagged my favourites on the PC it takes like 23-26 seconds.
Certainly a workflow killer, for me anyway.
Well that's serious... I don't wanna be a partypooper, but perhaps do a disk check? It might be starting to fail slowly. If that checks out, perhaps defrag the drive?

Thanks......I did those and also did a blackmagic disk speed test. all seem normal.
I even disabled windows defender annoying real time protection.
I emailed the database to u-he.
thanks

rsp

clangorous · Post by **clangorous** » Fri Dec 08, 2017 3:37 am

Congrats on the release candidate U-he! I am having a blast browsing the new presets. At 96kHz/24 bit I'm listening to some serious mojo in Repro-5. You guys have done it again!

synth_punk · Post by **synth_punk** » Fri Dec 08, 2017 4:28 am

2013 Mac Pro 6 core vader helmet RePro-5 overall cpu seems a bit lower now (4 core default), but core 1 peaking more than others (Logic 10.2.3/Sierra). No use of hyperthreading.

Urs wrote:
PhilG wrote:
4damind wrote:Great and good to see an improved multi-thread/multi-core handling
In my case it feels just like the opposite.

Many 8 voice patches cause crackles here with a single note played.
Multi Core on/off doesn´t have a large impact.

3rd Gen i7 3630QM, 256 buffer size, Windows 10 Pro 1709 64bit
Try experimenting with the number of threads setting in the preferences. I reckon that No. of physical cores - 1 is a good idea, so 3 threads on a quad core machine.

ericzang · Post by **ericzang** » Fri Dec 08, 2017 5:44 am

musichascolors wrote: 1. Would it be possible to midi-learn the mod wheel to a knob. I'm using my minilogue as a controller, and don't have a way to "midi-learn it" to anything. If I could route it to the LFO intensity knob, that would be great!

Depending on your host, you may be able to use a midi plugin before Repro to route your knob's CC to CC1 (modwheel).

For example, there is the old but very good midi utility bundle that contains the vst "midi16CCrouter" http://thepiz.org/plugins/?p=pizmidi

Or if you use Reaper (or can use the JS to vst plugin ReaJS https://www.reaper.fm/reaplugs/)
then you can use MIDI CC Mapper.

glokraw · Post by **glokraw** » Fri Dec 08, 2017 5:45 am

How about the U-he sound-designers create a dedicated preset that
everyone will use for cpu/core/thread discussions, comparisons,
and for testing the many numeric options?

Maybe call it 'HS SamePage.h2p'

Cheers

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Fri Dec 08, 2017 8:43 am

synth_punk wrote:2013 Mac Pro 6 core vader helmet RePro-5 overall cpu seems a bit lower now (4 core default), but core 1 peaking more than others (Logic 10.2.3/Sierra).

Therein lies the improvement. The one core that does a little more work is the core Repro-5 would be rendering on if Multicore wasn't enabled. We give that one an extra voice to render, and some housekeeping on the voices that don't need rendering. This ensures (more or less) that all other cores have finished their job before this one is done.

With the previous implementation we noticed that the main core had often been sitting idle, waiting for other threads to finish. That is part of the overhead I was talking about that cripples overall performance when too many instances have too many threads to work with.

You'll see a little more CPU on you DAW's meter than before but overall CPU increases far less, and very large spikes (e.g. when a mouse click or a UI draw blocks a thread for a millisecond or two) should be history now.

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