Repro V1.1 released (including Repro-5, free update)

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Same problem here. I haven't receive a license key from Uhe yet. Bought Repro 15-12 via Audiodeluxe.
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AKoelewijn wrote:Same problem here. I haven't receive a license key from Uhe yet. Bought Repro 15-12 via Audiodeluxe.
I have just received a mail from U-he :

"we know that more users have this problem, and we're working hard on fixing this."
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It's a glitch on our server. We're onto it.
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Congrats U-he!
The best Christmas present ever :party: :clap:
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Urs wrote:It's a glitch on our server. We're onto it.
Should be fixed... a few dozen licenses sent out... please let me know...
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can Repro-5 be more "optimized" regarding CPU performance?

I cant believe that it is way more resource hungry than Diva.
But then a strange fear gripped me
and I just couldn't ask....
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Beautiful sounding synth. Well done to all concerned.

One little thing that I've noticed in V6794 Win32 VST2. When you change the status (on or off) of any waveform on either oscillator there is a little thump the first time that each new 'voice' is played. Once a voice has been played, on the second time and after it is keyed there is no more thump. It even happens also when you switch off all waveforms. It's like the DC state of the 'virtual audio' signal prior to the filter is temporarily altered but only for the first time that note is played.
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Garzita wrote:can Repro-5 be more "optimized" regarding CPU performance?

I cant believe that it is way more resource hungry than Diva.
are you serious ? :dog: why you cant believe? because its not feature packed or just because you dont have a CPU to run that? :D
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Urs wrote:
Urs wrote:It's a glitch on our server. We're onto it.
Should be fixed... a few dozen licenses sent out... please let me know...
It's ok for me !
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Elektronisch wrote:
Garzita wrote:can Repro-5 be more "optimized" regarding CPU performance?

I cant believe that it is way more resource hungry than Diva.
are you serious ? :dog: why you cant believe? because its not feature packed or just because you dont have a CPU to run that? :D
Perhaps Repro-5 can have draft mode like Diva?

Unless this has been already discussed and for technical reason it's not an option.
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12deadpixels wrote:
Elektronisch wrote:
Garzita wrote:can Repro-5 be more "optimized" regarding CPU performance?

I cant believe that it is way more resource hungry than Diva.
are you serious ? :dog: why you cant believe? because its not feature packed or just because you dont have a CPU to run that? :D
Perhaps Repro-5 can have draft mode like Diva?

Unless this has been already discussed and for technical reason it's not an option.
Having a draft mode is not really an optimisation :) also the way the sentance was formed sounded a bit duffy, as if i would say that i cant believe a bus can consume more amount of gas as 49CC moped, i mean just look at the bus and look at the moped, same is here, look at the Diva and look at the Pro 5 (sorry, i mean Listen), the difference is obvious why it does take more recources :)
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Elektronisch wrote:
Garzita wrote:can Repro-5 be more "optimized" regarding CPU performance?

I cant believe that it is way more resource hungry than Diva.
are you serious ? :dog: why you cant believe? because its not feature packed or just because you dont have a CPU to run that? :D
Uhmm... yeah, I am serious. and I do have the CPU(s) to run DIVA at its highest settings, with long release envelope settings, polyphony, sometimes even voice stacking and my system hits the low 80% range. I can live with that as I dont record in the box, I run it through a mixing board off to a HD recorder

But Repro-5 is way more CPU hungry than that, same Voice Polyphony and ADSR settings: boom, Ableton and CPU go red hot... and I dont even like my Snap, Crackles and Pops for breakfast.

I am unbelievably satisfied with Repro-1 and that to me justifies having bought the product, but I cant see any value in Repro-5 at this point with my current setup, which handles Diva, Bazille and ACE with no problems at all.
But then a strange fear gripped me
and I just couldn't ask....
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Synthbuilder wrote:Beautiful sounding synth. Well done to all concerned.

One little thing that I've noticed in V6794 Win32 VST2. When you change the status (on or off) of any waveform on either oscillator there is a little thump the first time that each new 'voice' is played. Once a voice has been played, on the second time and after it is keyed there is no more thump. It even happens also when you switch off all waveforms. It's like the DC state of the 'virtual audio' signal prior to the filter is temporarily altered but only for the first time that note is played.
That's entirely possible. The waveforms come with individual DC offsets. Switching them on or off creates a short thumping noise, which is related to the DC blocker sweeping in onto the offset. The DC blocker however sits behind the filter. Thus the DC is integral part of the sound.

Due to CPU savings we do not render unused voices. Hence when a voice is waken up when it plays a new note, the DC thump happens only then.

Similar effects also occur when playing low notes, then high notes as there are also pitch dependent DCs. As those are also quite prominent in the hardware, we attribute those to the natural sound of the thing.

After much consideration we saw no way to avoid those effects without an excessive increase in CPU.
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Garzita wrote:
Elektronisch wrote:
Garzita wrote:can Repro-5 be more "optimized" regarding CPU performance?

I cant believe that it is way more resource hungry than Diva.
are you serious ? :dog: why you cant believe? because its not feature packed or just because you dont have a CPU to run that? :D
Uhmm... yeah, I am serious. and I do have the CPU(s) to run DIVA at its highest settings, with long release envelope settings, polyphony, sometimes even voice stacking and my system hits the low 80% range. I can live with that as I dont record in the box, I run it through a mixing board off to a HD recorder

But Repro-5 is way more CPU hungry than that, same Voice Polyphony and ADSR settings: boom, Ableton and CPU go red hot... and I dont even like my Snap, Crackles and Pops for breakfast.

I am unbelievably satisfied with Repro-1 and that to me justifies having bought the product, but I cant see any value in Repro-5 at this point with my current setup, which handles Diva, Bazille and ACE with no problems at all.
1. Repro 5 is not Diva.
2. Diva was released in 2011 (cpus were different, not as powerful)
3. Different synths architecture by nature to recreate theyr virtual analogs (if im right, maybe Urs can comment on that)
4. Sound quality, Repro 5 just sounds better (this is ofcourse subjective), more defined, sound itself is more detailed and clear. So even with same envelopes, settings, it doesnt matter, it will consume more CPU.
Last edited by Elektronisch on Mon Dec 18, 2017 6:53 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Garzita wrote:But Repro-5 is way more CPU hungry than that, same Voice Polyphony and ADSR settings: boom, Ableton and CPU go red hot... and I dont even like my Snap, Crackles and Pops for breakfast.

I am unbelievably satisfied with Repro-1 and that to me justifies having bought the product, but I cant see any value in Repro-5 at this point with my current setup, which handles Diva, Bazille and ACE with no problems at all.
The filter cutoff range and modulation depths of Repro are much higher than those of Diva. Therefore Repro's "low quality" setting begins where Diva has it's highest quality setting. It's been a completely different challenge.
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