Prophet 5 vs Jupiter 8

[Ingonator]

The Roland Jupiter-8 (Roland Cloud) plugin at the first version was a true CPU killer, even worse than Diva and Repro-5.
With the latest version they reduced the CPU load and i could use 4 instances with up to 32 voices without audio dropout on my i5-3350P Quad Core CPU in Windows 10 64-bit and Live 9 64-bit.

With Repro-5 while i really ove the plugin with 4 instances i could get a similar amount of voices only with the "HQ" button switched off. When HQ is on the CPU will overload with that amount of voices.

Both the Roland Jupiter-8 (Roland Cloud) plugin and Repro-5 seem to have a comparable sound quality using modern DSP technology and both seem to be proper emulations of the real thing (while both also include advanced features).

[kobal]

soundwise jp 8 hardware other the p5 ! always enjoyed more the japanese synths, over moog and prophet 5 , the usa synths where more used in mainstream music it seems, while japanese is the sound of the underground and exploration ,well i feel it that way even if it doesen t mean much , to me the minimoogs and prophet 5 tend to have a cheesy sound caractere maybe cause we heard them a lot in cheesy music

[himalaya]

cheesy music

I dunno.... Mature Cheddar House is great. Also the Roquefort Lounge genre has an air of class, just maybe verging on the 'blue' note too much.

[egbert101]

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[fluffy_little_something]

Funny enough I find the Roland synths cheesy. But good cheese, like cheese on toast.

To me the Juno's are the ultimate cheesy synths

[db3]

I much prefer Juno ACB over JP8 ACB...and I think I prefer Repro-5 to DSI Prophet 8/Rev2. Not sure any of that helps though

[Ingonator]

I much prefer Juno ACB over JP8 ACB...and I think I prefer Repro-5 to DSI Prophet 8/Rev2. Not sure any of that helps though

The only thing i really like in Juno 60 or 106 is the Ensemble/Chorus effect and you could get that for free with TAL Chorus-LX.
Besides that the synth engine of a Jupiter 8 is superior to the Juno 60/106 by far. The original Juno 60 and 106 did not even have a second envelope which for me mostly makes make them unusable. FWIW i had owned TAl U-NO LX but sold it also due that that reason.

The Juno-106 by Roland Cloud has a second envelope which makes it much more usable for my taste than the real synth.
While long time ago i had owned a real Jupiter 8 the closest i had owned to a Roland Juno was a MKS-50 rack which is the rack version of Alpha Juno (this and MKS-50 even had 2 envelopes in the hardware).

You could also combine a Chorus effect like Chorus-LX with a Jupiter 8 emulation which can result in very nice sounds.

[chk071]

Judging by sound demos, i always found that the Jupiter-8 is one of the less pleasant sounding analogs. To each his own. Sounds somewhat cold to me.

[fluffy_little_something]

The only thing i really like in Juno 60 or 106 is the Ensemble/Chorus effect and you could get that for free with TAL Chorus-LX.

You could also combine a Chorus effect like Chorus-LX with a Jupiter 8 emulation which can result in very nice sounds.

No idea how the chorus of the JX-8P compared to the Junos', but the former chorus is also available separately on the PG-8X site.

[D-Fusion]

I much prefer Juno ACB over JP8 ACB...and I think I prefer Repro-5 to DSI Prophet 8/Rev2. Not sure any of that helps though

What is it that you like better on Repro 5 vs Prophet Rev2?
I own both and like them and they do actually work great together because of differences in the filter
And it would be impossible for me to choose between them because both are awesome

The JP8 ACB left me cold since i don't like it's sound and it was the same with the jp08 i had so i agree on that part-
The Ju 06 i liked but not so much the vst version from roland because the noise on the chorus is so loud and you can't turn it off like you can on the ju 06 unless that is fixed now.

[rod_zero]

The original Juno 60 and 106 did not even have a second envelope...

The Juno-106 by Roland Cloud has a second envelope which makes it much more usable for my taste than the real synth.
While long time ago i had owned a real Jupiter 8 the closest i had owned to a Roland Juno was a MKS-50 rack which is the rack version of Alpha Juno (this and MKS-50 even had 2 envelopes in the hardware).

You could also combine a Chorus effect like Chorus-LX with a Jupiter 8 emulation which can result in very nice sounds.

The original Juno's did have a second envelope, just Google an image of them.

[beely]

Judging by sound demos, i always found that the Jupiter-8 is one of the less pleasant sounding analogs. To each his own. Sounds somewhat cold to me.

Even back in the day it had a reputation for being a top end polysynth, and a bit of a monster, but it's sound character meant it could do subtle, cleaner, thinner things as well, and that was where the American polysynths tended to fall down a bit. And because it wasn't doing that huge thick fat low middle stuff all the time, it was often easier to blend into a mix.

So I like it *because* of it's somewhat unique character, and the fact it isn't like anything else. It can do thick fat things (and you can layer as well), but that's only part of it's repertoire... Plus for me, it just defines what a synth should look like, to me, I think the JP8 is a gorgeous thing.

It is my all-time favourite synth. I just wish I'd picked one up for about £600 in the early 90s...

[Ingonator]

The original Juno 60 and 106 did not even have a second envelope...

The Juno-106 by Roland Cloud has a second envelope which makes it much more usable for my taste than the real synth.
While long time ago i had owned a real Jupiter 8 the closest i had owned to a Roland Juno was a MKS-50 rack which is the rack version of Alpha Juno (this and MKS-50 even had 2 envelopes in the hardware).

You could also combine a Chorus effect like Chorus-LX with a Jupiter 8 emulation which can result in very nice sounds.

The original Juno's did have a second envelope, just Google an image of them.

So where is the second envelope in those and of course i mean a second full featured ADSR with dedicated controls like in the Jupiter 8 and Prophet 5, not a simple "Gate" envelope like in the Amp section of the Junos:









Maybe you mean the Alpha Junos?

The Juno-106 plugin from Roland Cloud has a second envelope as i already mentioned in my previous post:

[rod_zero]

Sorry, I googled and since I saw many controls in the VCF section and I was on my phone it looked like a second envelope. My apologies.

In the System 8 model it also has the 2nd envelope.

[Ingonator]

In the System 8 model it also has the 2nd envelope.

That one should be similar to the Roland Cloud Juno-106 plugin mentioned above.