Any Sampler that can "Render in place" loaded sample with its own FXs chain?
- KVRian
- 878 posts since 2 Oct, 2013
Hi all,
I'm searching a Sampler that is able to internally "Render in place" a loaded sample with its internal/linked FXs applied to it, reloading it and mapping to a new key.
Example: let say I open Kontakt (with virtually this feature available), I load a sample (map in C3), with 10 FXs in serial. Than I do Right click->Render in place, which will create a sample long as long the last FX will end (in case of reverb, delay and such), and reloading it on the Mapping Editor with another Key. So than I can trigger the "renderings" samples that will "brutally stop" when I release the note (avoid problem with tail and such when lots of FX are applied to it).
I can do it with any DAW features, but I'd like to stay within the Sampler context if possible.
Do you know any Sampler able to do this?
Thanks
I'm searching a Sampler that is able to internally "Render in place" a loaded sample with its internal/linked FXs applied to it, reloading it and mapping to a new key.
Example: let say I open Kontakt (with virtually this feature available), I load a sample (map in C3), with 10 FXs in serial. Than I do Right click->Render in place, which will create a sample long as long the last FX will end (in case of reverb, delay and such), and reloading it on the Mapping Editor with another Key. So than I can trigger the "renderings" samples that will "brutally stop" when I release the note (avoid problem with tail and such when lots of FX are applied to it).
I can do it with any DAW features, but I'd like to stay within the Sampler context if possible.
Do you know any Sampler able to do this?
Thanks
- KVRist
- 80 posts since 13 Feb, 2005 from Stockholm
You can basically do this with Reason but I guess other software as well. It takes getting to know how your stuff works and finding methods. Not the other way around (ie coming up with ideas about things not existing). In Reason for instance, you can export anything and reimport it into NNXT or many other machines. I find it very flexible and fun to use.
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- KVRian
- 1153 posts since 21 Nov, 2005
Not sure why this would be faster than just doing the same thing in your DAW, especially if your DAW includes an onboard Sampler. In Live, you'd record the MIDI note, freeze track, drag frozen section to new audio track, unfreeze original track, drag recorded audio to sampler and set key (this explanation possibly taking longer than the process itself)Nowhk wrote:Hi all,
I'm searching a Sampler that is able to internally "Render in place" a loaded sample with its internal/linked FXs applied to it, reloading it and mapping to a new key.
Example: let say I open Kontakt (with virtually this feature available), I load a sample (map in C3), with 10 FXs in serial. Than I do Right click->Render in place, which will create a sample long as long the last FX will end (in case of reverb, delay and such), and reloading it on the Mapping Editor with another Key. So than I can trigger the "renderings" samples that will "brutally stop" when I release the note (avoid problem with tail and such when lots of FX are applied to it).
I can do it with any DAW features, but I'd like to stay within the Sampler context if possible.
Do you know any Sampler able to do this?
Thanks
- KVRAF
- 10168 posts since 16 Dec, 2002
You could do this with IL Directwave if you load a vst host in it, load the sampler and then resample it. I sometimes use it to resample vsts with effect chains
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 878 posts since 2 Oct, 2013
I was looking for somethings similar to Cubase Direct Offline process. Slice, bounce, add FX (with history, and automatically freeze).
I feel stupid to get this feature for 550€
That's why I'm looking for somethings similar.
Already tried all the methods above (now, again, and in the past), but nothing can comparate that.
Live could, but it doesn't care (for example) about reverb and delay in the Clip manager, when Freezing them. Send its not an option (since they are specific for track, replicate every time would be a pain).
IL Directwave now won't support VST sampling, instead its integrated in any channel, so I can do it with every plugin I want directly from Channel Rack. Its good, but the same: there's no VST sampler that will take care about history on operation of slicing and such, so once I did a sound design, its gone forever, can't go back
Which is a important task for me!
Thanks for the suggestions!
I feel stupid to get this feature for 550€
Already tried all the methods above (now, again, and in the past), but nothing can comparate that.
Live could, but it doesn't care (for example) about reverb and delay in the Clip manager, when Freezing them. Send its not an option (since they are specific for track, replicate every time would be a pain).
IL Directwave now won't support VST sampling, instead its integrated in any channel, so I can do it with every plugin I want directly from Channel Rack. Its good, but the same: there's no VST sampler that will take care about history on operation of slicing and such, so once I did a sound design, its gone forever, can't go back
Thanks for the suggestions!
- KVRAF
- 10168 posts since 16 Dec, 2002
Wierd, its gone from the IL shop but forum posts indicate they are still working on the updated VST release, which includes vector GUI and new integrated wav editorNowhk wrote:I
IL Directwave now won't support VST sampling
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 878 posts since 2 Oct, 2013
Dunno! Can't see it. Anyway: https://www.image-line.com/support/flst ... nelSamplerVariKusBrainZ wrote:Wierd, its gone from the IL shop but forum posts indicate they are still working on the updated VST release, which includes vector GUI and new integrated wav editorNowhk wrote:I
IL Directwave now won't support VST sampling
Its the same thing, but better
- KVRAF
- 10168 posts since 16 Dec, 2002
Not available from the shop but still available from its own product page and still includes the vst version and 40% off at the moment with coupon EOY2017VariKusBrainZ wrote:Wierd, its gone from the IL shop but forum posts indicate they are still working on the updated VST release, which includes vector GUI and new integrated wav editorNowhk wrote:I
IL Directwave now won't support VST sampling
https://www.image-line.com/plugins/Synt ... ?k&ord=347
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 878 posts since 2 Oct, 2013
VariKusBrainZ wrote:Not available from the shop but still available from its own product page and still includes the vst version and 40% off at the moment with coupon EOY2017VariKusBrainZ wrote:Wierd, its gone from the IL shop but forum posts indicate they are still working on the updated VST release, which includes vector GUI and new integrated wav editorNowhk wrote:I
IL Directwave now won't support VST sampling
https://www.image-line.com/plugins/Synt ... ?k&ord=347
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thecontrolcentre thecontrolcentre https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=76240
- KVRAF
- 37262 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from Scottish Borders
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 878 posts since 2 Oct, 2013
Yes, but as I said I don't use send. FXs are per-track specifics. Not sure what do you mean with "bounce from the master channel" thoughthecontrolcentre wrote:You could do it in Live if, rather than freezing, you bounce the audio from the master channel to a clip/track. Any send fx get bounced too.
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thecontrolcentre thecontrolcentre https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=76240
- KVRAF
- 37262 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from Scottish Borders
I mean record the master channel to a clip or track. I misunderstood your comment about sends. If you don't use them then its simple to record the track output to another tracks input (in Live).Nowhk wrote:Yes, but as I said I don't use send. FXs are per-track specifics. Not sure what do you mean with "bounce from the master channel" thoughthecontrolcentre wrote:You could do it in Live if, rather than freezing, you bounce the audio from the master channel to a clip/track. Any send fx get bounced too.
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 878 posts since 2 Oct, 2013
In real time? With tail/reverb of 10/20 seconds per clip? Its a pain... waste of time.thecontrolcentre wrote:I mean record the master to a clip or track. I misunderstood your comment about sends. If you don't use them then its simple to record the track output to another tracks input (in Live).Nowhk wrote:Yes, but as I said I don't use send. FXs are per-track specifics. Not sure what do you mean with "bounce from the master channel" thoughthecontrolcentre wrote:You could do it in Live if, rather than freezing, you bounce the audio from the master channel to a clip/track. Any send fx get bounced too.
Or at least, I don't know if its possible to render a track as audio clip in 1 click, considering the Tail
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thecontrolcentre thecontrolcentre https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=76240
- KVRAF
- 37262 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from Scottish Borders
