Any Sampler that can "Render in place" loaded sample with its own FXs chain?

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Hi all,

I'm searching a Sampler that is able to internally "Render in place" a loaded sample with its internal/linked FXs applied to it, reloading it and mapping to a new key.

Example: let say I open Kontakt (with virtually this feature available), I load a sample (map in C3), with 10 FXs in serial. Than I do Right click->Render in place, which will create a sample long as long the last FX will end (in case of reverb, delay and such), and reloading it on the Mapping Editor with another Key. So than I can trigger the "renderings" samples that will "brutally stop" when I release the note (avoid problem with tail and such when lots of FX are applied to it).

I can do it with any DAW features, but I'd like to stay within the Sampler context if possible.
Do you know any Sampler able to do this?

Thanks

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You can basically do this with Reason but I guess other software as well. It takes getting to know how your stuff works and finding methods. Not the other way around (ie coming up with ideas about things not existing). In Reason for instance, you can export anything and reimport it into NNXT or many other machines. I find it very flexible and fun to use.

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NI Battery?
This is the same method MJ used when he was working on Anthony Marinelli's Thriller.

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Nowhk wrote:Hi all,

I'm searching a Sampler that is able to internally "Render in place" a loaded sample with its internal/linked FXs applied to it, reloading it and mapping to a new key.

Example: let say I open Kontakt (with virtually this feature available), I load a sample (map in C3), with 10 FXs in serial. Than I do Right click->Render in place, which will create a sample long as long the last FX will end (in case of reverb, delay and such), and reloading it on the Mapping Editor with another Key. So than I can trigger the "renderings" samples that will "brutally stop" when I release the note (avoid problem with tail and such when lots of FX are applied to it).

I can do it with any DAW features, but I'd like to stay within the Sampler context if possible.
Do you know any Sampler able to do this?

Thanks
Not sure why this would be faster than just doing the same thing in your DAW, especially if your DAW includes an onboard Sampler. In Live, you'd record the MIDI note, freeze track, drag frozen section to new audio track, unfreeze original track, drag recorded audio to sampler and set key (this explanation possibly taking longer than the process itself)

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You could do this with IL Directwave if you load a vst host in it, load the sampler and then resample it. I sometimes use it to resample vsts with effect chains

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I was looking for somethings similar to Cubase Direct Offline process. Slice, bounce, add FX (with history, and automatically freeze).

I feel stupid to get this feature for 550€ :) That's why I'm looking for somethings similar.
Already tried all the methods above (now, again, and in the past), but nothing can comparate that.

Live could, but it doesn't care (for example) about reverb and delay in the Clip manager, when Freezing them. Send its not an option (since they are specific for track, replicate every time would be a pain).

IL Directwave now won't support VST sampling, instead its integrated in any channel, so I can do it with every plugin I want directly from Channel Rack. Its good, but the same: there's no VST sampler that will take care about history on operation of slicing and such, so once I did a sound design, its gone forever, can't go back :) Which is a important task for me!

Thanks for the suggestions!

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Nowhk wrote:I

IL Directwave now won't support VST sampling
Wierd, its gone from the IL shop but forum posts indicate they are still working on the updated VST release, which includes vector GUI and new integrated wav editor

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VariKusBrainZ wrote:
Nowhk wrote:I

IL Directwave now won't support VST sampling
Wierd, its gone from the IL shop but forum posts indicate they are still working on the updated VST release, which includes vector GUI and new integrated wav editor
Dunno! Can't see it. Anyway: https://www.image-line.com/support/flst ... nelSampler

Its the same thing, but better :)

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VariKusBrainZ wrote:
Nowhk wrote:I

IL Directwave now won't support VST sampling
Wierd, its gone from the IL shop but forum posts indicate they are still working on the updated VST release, which includes vector GUI and new integrated wav editor
Not available from the shop but still available from its own product page and still includes the vst version and 40% off at the moment with coupon EOY2017

https://www.image-line.com/plugins/Synt ... ?k&ord=347

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VariKusBrainZ wrote:
VariKusBrainZ wrote:
Nowhk wrote:I

IL Directwave now won't support VST sampling
Wierd, its gone from the IL shop but forum posts indicate they are still working on the updated VST release, which includes vector GUI and new integrated wav editor
Not available from the shop but still available from its own product page and still includes the vst version and 40% off at the moment with coupon EOY2017

https://www.image-line.com/plugins/Synt ... ?k&ord=347
;)

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You could do it in Live if, rather than freezing, you bounce the audio from the master channel to a clip/track. Any send fx get bounced too.

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thecontrolcentre wrote:You could do it in Live if, rather than freezing, you bounce the audio from the master channel to a clip/track. Any send fx get bounced too.
Yes, but as I said I don't use send. FXs are per-track specifics. Not sure what do you mean with "bounce from the master channel" though :)

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Nowhk wrote:
thecontrolcentre wrote:You could do it in Live if, rather than freezing, you bounce the audio from the master channel to a clip/track. Any send fx get bounced too.
Yes, but as I said I don't use send. FXs are per-track specifics. Not sure what do you mean with "bounce from the master channel" though :)
I mean record the master channel to a clip or track. I misunderstood your comment about sends. If you don't use them then its simple to record the track output to another tracks input (in Live).

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thecontrolcentre wrote:
Nowhk wrote:
thecontrolcentre wrote:You could do it in Live if, rather than freezing, you bounce the audio from the master channel to a clip/track. Any send fx get bounced too.
Yes, but as I said I don't use send. FXs are per-track specifics. Not sure what do you mean with "bounce from the master channel" though :)
I mean record the master to a clip or track. I misunderstood your comment about sends. If you don't use them then its simple to record the track output to another tracks input (in Live).
In real time? With tail/reverb of 10/20 seconds per clip? Its a pain... waste of time.
Or at least, I don't know if its possible to render a track as audio clip in 1 click, considering the Tail :)

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10 secs is too long? :hihi:

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