KVR Audio

SciFiArtMan · Post by **SciFiArtMan** » Sun Dec 31, 2017 11:08 pm

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The addition of the Arp Odyssey is great, but...

Could someone please nudge me awake when Korg updates their tiny Legacy GUIs! Thanks!

Cinebient · Post by **Cinebient** » Sun Dec 31, 2017 11:16 pm

SciFiArtMan wrote:.
The addition of the Arp Odyssey is great, but...

Could someone please nudge me awake when Korg updates their tiny Legacy GUIs! Thanks!

Maybe next year....means 2019

c_voltage · Post by **c_voltage** » Mon Jan 01, 2018 3:54 am

I not install new versions yet, want to ask - still there is any problems with installer ? It's still ignore for user choice for dlls place ? (Windows)

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Mon Jan 01, 2018 7:26 am

No they fixed that I think

djscorb · Post by **djscorb** » Mon Jan 01, 2018 11:04 am

Was just about to purchase when I noticed that it says in the info that it requires OSX 10.10 Yosemite.

Can anyone confirm if this is actually the case or just them covering themselves and only providing official support for Yosemite onwards?

I am on 10.9.5 and have no desire to upgrade at present.

So, anyone got it working on 10.9.5?

Cheers

Scorb

mcnoone · Post by **mcnoone** » Mon Jan 01, 2018 1:00 pm

djscorb wrote:Was just about to purchase when I noticed that it says in the info that it requires OSX 10.10 Yosemite.

Can anyone confirm if this is actually the case or just them covering themselves and only providing official support for Yosemite onwards?

I am on 10.9.5 and have no desire to upgrade at present.

So, anyone got it working on 10.9.5?

Cheers

Scorb

Not certain, but from past experience of other synths on mac that set requirements.
The mac will not install it, giving you the message that it is only compatible with said newer os version, and not allow an install. Though I upgraded from 10.6 to 10.11 and noticed no problems. Why aren't you upgrading? Will you lose software by doing so?

djscorb · Post by **djscorb** » Mon Jan 01, 2018 2:31 pm

Thanks for the info.

I can’t justify potentially breaking a working system for one soft synth. The likelihood of something getting screwed up that I rely on for daily mastering work is too risky.

I’ve not come across any other software I use regularly that has such a lack of support for what really is not that old an OS.

With no demo, it’s a bit of a bummer and I can’t check whether they are simply being conservative with their recommendations for 10.10.

I have the ios version of Oddysei, but would love to have it in plugin form.

If anyone has another system pre-10.10 that they could try to run the installer on, it would be great to know.

Cheers

Scorb

mcbpete · Post by **mcbpete** » Mon Jan 01, 2018 2:35 pm

mcbpete wrote:This is a real long shot but I've been racking my brains on a preset ever since I came across this one (Vox Concrete) on Wavestation

https://soundcloud.com/mcbpete/whatisthat

The preset I'm looking for is real similar but (and this sounds strange!) a bit more 'miowy' in the tibre of the synth. I'm sure the preset has been used loads in 80s sci fi shows but I've been through all the ROM/RAM pages and can't find it - So wondering if it wasn't the Wavestation at all. As I say it's a long shot but does anyone know what I'm talking about ?!

Out of sheer luck I found it ... It wasn't even by Korg, its the patch he plays at 16:50 ('Soundtrack' I believe) :

Stefken · Post by **Stefken** » Mon Jan 01, 2018 3:11 pm

Browsed through this thread and saw a lot about installs and stuff (I upgraded without problems) but almost nothing about the sound.
Can anyone compare the new Arp with the Oddity 2 from Gforce software.
To me the Oddity 2 sounds great so doubtfull that this Arp would sound better.

Cinebient · Post by **Cinebient** » Mon Jan 01, 2018 3:16 pm

Stefken wrote:Browsed through this thread and saw a lot about installs and stuff (I upgraded without problems) but almost nothing about the sound.
Can anyone compare the new Arp with the Oddity 2 from Gforce software.
To me the Oddity 2 sounds great so doubtfull that this Arp would sound better.

I could just compare Oddity 2 against the iOS version (which we know now is the same beside the plug-in double the voices) and i like the Korg thing much more.
It has more juice and power for me and especially THAT unison (which seems to kill every cpu) makes it for me.
Both could work on their GUI´s.
But Oddity´s GUI was terrible for me.
Now it´s 2018 and i wouldn´t buy any blurry plug-ins anymore.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Mon Jan 01, 2018 3:22 pm

That unison doesn't seem to kill my CPU. 16 voices unison with all internal FX on and tons of drive and filter self-oscillating, at around 9% CPU usage in Reaper (i7-6700K at 4.5 GHz)

Very manageable, Repro-5 is hungrier (at HQ and all FX.)

djscorb · Post by **djscorb** » Mon Jan 01, 2018 3:29 pm

Assuming the VST/AU is identical to the ios version, the Korg version wipes the floor with Oddity in terms of sound.

Cheers

Scorb

fluffy_little_something · Mon Jan 01, 2018 3:30 pm

EnGee wrote:
braj wrote:
EnGee wrote:But some developers could port their plugins with very low cpu like Sunrizer and Nave!

It’s not only 16x16 patches are overloading my cpu! There are some 8x8 and less as well. Anyway, I haven’t tried with buffer 256 or 512, there might be a difference.
One thing I noticed, at least in Reaper, is no PDC is used for Odyssey, where Repro, LuSH-101, others have PDC of varying amounts.
I don't really know how the PDC can affect the performance of the CPU. Maybe this is the reason that all(?) of u-he synths have PDC? I have no idea.

Anyway, I compared RePro with ARP Odyssey! I think it is a useless comparison. Maybe a better comparison is with Oddity 2 (which I don't have). With RePro I can use buffer 128 (that is 5ms in/5ms out in Reaper) with most presets. I think what is helping is the Multi-Cores button.

With ARP I could use 128 buffer with more than half the presets. However, some presets that even doesn't have unison caused crackles with buffer 128 and 256 (that is 10ms/10ms). Such presets like '046 Lounge Dot' which is 16 poly and 1 unison! Only with buffer 512 (16ms/20ms) I could play chords without crackles!

The problem is I'm afraid that if we press on Korg to optimize ARP, it would lower the quality This is by far is what I don't want! As this is the first synth I can tolerate its cpu usage compared to the quality So, sorry I'm afraid I won't complain about it
Where is that 'freeze' function I used to use 10 years ago?!

In my case it is the other way round, when I turn MC support off in the plugin, the CPU load goes down. Seems Reaper is doing a fine job spreading the load across various cores/threads without the interference of the plugin.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Mon Jan 01, 2018 3:54 pm

You should check out the RT CPU in Reaper's performance meter. Over here, with u-he plugins, total CPU goes up when MC is off, but RT CPU (that's the main audio thread - if that one falls over, you get crackles) goes DOWN. And that's what's important - MC button defintiely DOES do its work even with Reaper's regular processing benefits - you just see it in a different way.

If you don't see RT CPU in Reaper's performance meter, right-click in it for more options.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Mon Jan 01, 2018 3:58 pm

EnGee wrote:I don't really know how the PDC can affect the performance of the CPU. Maybe this is the reason that all(?) of u-he synths have PDC? I have no idea.

PDC is just delayed processing, it doesn't really affect CPU other than delaying when it should start processing.

Also, u-he synths process things internally in blocks of 16 samples, that's why they add PDC, but you can disable this in their plugins' Preferences panel.

Korg updates its Legacy Collection with a new Arp Odyssey emulation