Aux buss ? How to do this ?

[kara]

I'm a bit confused here. So a litle advice would be appreciated.

So Tracktion has no classic mixer like other studio software. This is fine to me, you just drop an effect on a track, tweek his setting and determine the dry/wet %.
I understand it as that Tracktion handles all effects as inserts.
But...
Suppose I want to this :
let's say i have a piano track. Now i want to add a little reverb to it, but I want to pan the piano slightly left and the return of the reverb slightly right.
In a 'normal' studio setup, you would put the reverb on a Aux bus, attach the aux bus to the piano and pan the return of the aux bus.
Can this be done in Tracktion?

I really think I'm missing something here

Rony

[simondsouza]

Hi

Yes you can do the whole bus thing in many different ways in T.

First go over to ADBE and check out their tutorial on racks within tracktion - http://www.adbe.org/guides/tracktion/racks.html

The same question was asked a couple of months ago, a number of other solutions were given - go to http://www.kvr-vst.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=49090

Hope this helps

Simon

[kara]

Thanks Simon,

I'll study the rack topic.
From a first overview, as I understand it, I will have to build my proper mixer using racks

Rony

[sixnon]

Rony,

If you're using a PC i seem to recall someone actually built a mixer for Tracktion, but I can't remember where...maybe it was hosted at Tracktion Faction..

Good Luck!

Six

[simondsouza]

Hi again

yes, there is a TF mixer at Tracktion Faction - it does the job tho I found it a bit heavy on the old cpu. It's at http://www.tracktionfaction.com/modules ... oad&cid=50

I found this mixer whilst searching - don't know how good it is
http://www.kvr-vst.com/get/693.html

But really, I find that racks are a good way to go.

for a different solution you can use senderella, a handy plug in by ModuLR get it here

http://subminimal.org/tools.php and see the post I gave the url to earlier for a quick tutorial from yours truly!!

You DO NOT need a mixer - although I know you think you do! I know this cos I moved to T from Cubase and it took me a couple of months to get over the mixer thing - but eventually I realised that I only need a send, or some reverb on the left channel only, or an insert, or a group - it all depends on the track, and so much of cubase is sitting there, being complicated, taking up resources and screen estate.

Having said this - if I want to do serious midi editing, I gravitate back to cubase - I really hope that T2 does something about it's woefully inadequate quantise abilities!

Simon

[kara]

Hi again Simon,

I have read the documentation on tracktion racks and you are right, I don't need a mixer

Is is actually pretty simple what I want to do.
I have tested it, just create a send rack.
1.Put the send rack on the track(s) where you want the aux send.
2. Put the send track allso on a extra track (the aux track) and add the reverb.

That's it.

Thanks you very much for your advise. I realise now the potential of the racks in Tracktion.

Rony

PS: Simondsouza ? Something to do with Linda de Souza
I guess not

[IIRs]

let's say i have a piano track. Now i want to add a little reverb to it, but I want to pan the piano slightly left and the return of the reverb slightly right.

If you don't need to "share" the reverb across any other tracks, you can do it more easily: Just create a Rack containing your reverb plug & two Vol/Pan filters, one for the dry piano signal, and one for the (100% wet) reverb outputs. This Rack can then be treated as an insert effect like T's other effects: no need for a "return" track..

[simondsouza]

well I guess that's that sorted....

mixers yah boo sucks!!!

filters yeah woopee wow

Simon

[kara]

let's say i have a piano track. Now i want to add a little reverb to it, but I want to pan the piano slightly left and the return of the reverb slightly right.

If you don't need to "share" the reverb across any other tracks, you can do it more easily: Just create a Rack containing your reverb plug & two Vol/Pan filters, one for the dry piano signal, and one for the (100% wet) reverb outputs. This Rack can then be treated as an insert effect like T's other effects: no need for a "return" track..

Yes you are right, and studying racks I came up with that option. Except that I didn't specify in my post that there is allso a bit of compression on the piano track and I suppose I send the piano track 'before' compression to the reverb.
This is all very interresting, I am a long time user of classical hardware studio, with 'sliders' and 'knobs'. My first software studio was Quartz Audio Studio Professional which is an exact representation of such a hardware studio.
Now with Tracktion there are a couple of concept that I have to rethink from scratch, challenging.

Rony

[IIRs]

Except that I didn't specify in my post that there is allso a bit of compression on the piano track and I suppose I send the piano track 'before' compression to the reverb.

You have various options:

The most traditional approach would be to simply insert the compressor BEFORE the reverb rack on the piano track..

Alternatively, insert the compressor AFTER the reverb for a slightly different sound..

Or, if you feel like it, try putting the compressor inside the rack; then you can compress just the dry signal, or just the signal that feeds the reverb, or even the reverb returns..

One of the things I like most about Tracktion is this flexibility: I feel it encourages me to experiment, cos its just so easy to re-arrange filters.

[Pipebomb Productions]

One thing i would like to be able to do is assign rack outputs to differnt tracks and psysical outs.

[IIRs]

One thing i would like to be able to do is assign rack outputs to differnt tracks and psysical outs.

you can: copy the rack to another track & select a different pair of outputs in the rack dialogue..