Korg updates its Legacy Collection with a new Arp Odyssey emulation

[chk071]

He isn't alone. 32 bit is a dead platform and there really shouldn't be any reason why developers should spend valuable time developing for that platform because some don't want to progress.
rsp

Thats a pretty shitty attitude.

You think just because something is not your choice it is OK to deprive others of their choice?

How can anyone be so self-centered?

How can 32-bit users be so self-centered that they think development for their tiny userbase would be so important that it takes away precious time from things which concern a large userbase?

Anyway, this discussion will lead nowhere anyway, because it's totally up to the developers to decide that. But, obviously, the fact that they don't offer 32-bit versions now should tell you that the 32-bit userbase is small enough now to decide whether it even makes sense to serve them or not.

[mcbpete]

PS: Something is not 'dead' only because you dont use it. Its dead when nobody uses it and right now 32bit is far from that.

You say that but a whopping 67% here are now completely 64bit with only 11% planning to stay 32bit for years - viewtopic.php?p=6918831

[wagtunes]

As much as I hate to admit this, the 64 bit users are right. Technology is moving away from 32 bit. Just as there is no more software for Windows 95 (at least none that I am aware) there will eventually be no software for 32 bit because the user base is going to become extremely small. Expecting a developer to maintain an old system is not cost effective for the developer if the user base isn't large enough. That's just basic economics. It's why I eventually got rid of my XP machine and why, some day, I'll have to get rid of Windows 7 and move to Windows 10. I simply won't have a choice IF I want to use the most up to date tools. But nobody is going to support Windows 7 once Microsoft itself stops supporting it, which, from what I'm hearing, isn't too far off in the future.

I mean that's just the reality of this stuff. Sure, you can still use Windows XP and 32 bit if you want, but you're going to be limited to the tools you already have because nobody is going to make tools for those systems anymore and they're certainly not going to do maintenance on existing software.

If anybody thinks otherwise, they're in for a rude awakening.

[Harry_HH]

And there is always the jBridge. I have several non-64 bit plugins connected via that to my 64 bit DAW - it works to the opposite direction, too.

https://jstuff.wordpress.com/jbridge/

[ENV1]

Mhhhh, no one force people to not use old OS, plug-ins and stay at 32 bit the rest of their life.
But they shouldn´t expect to get support for this in "modern" tools released in 2018.

And why is that?

Only because there are 64bit users too?

Is that a reason to deny one group what the other group wants just as much?

[Cinebient]

Mhhhh, no one force people to not use old OS, plug-ins and stay at 32 bit the rest of their life.
But they shouldn´t expect to get support for this in "modern" tools released in 2018.

And why is that?

Only because there are 64bit users too?

Is that a reason to deny one group what the other group wants just as much?

If the other group has no market for them, yes.
Believe me, i´m for every plug-in on every device, on every OS in every format but of course if that means it will slow down progress and optimizing code to run on modern soft- and hardware then i´m a egoist.

[Astralp]

And there is always the jBridge. I have several non-64 bit plugins connected via that to my 64 bit DAW - it works to the opposite direction, too.

https://jstuff.wordpress.com/jbridge/

I was just about to say that. Also Bitwig doesn't care if plugins are 64 or 32 and has a great sandbox system which would be a good move for people who still want to use 32-bit in the future.

I find it amusing that on a discussion which is about emulated 'obsolete' Korg hardware that people feel is still relevant, the concept of synths that are only 32-bit have zero value to music making even though it was a relatively short time ago

[Cinebient]

But maybe the old machines will perform better and can run all Korg Odyssey presets better after the intel cpu secure bug fix.

[EvilDragon]

No, not really. That bug goes WAY back. Like, before multicore CPUs back.

[Cinebient]

No, not really. That bug goes WAY back. Like, before multicore CPUs back.

Doh´ Well done Intel.

[chk071]

Mhhhh, no one force people to not use old OS, plug-ins and stay at 32 bit the rest of their life.
But they shouldn´t expect to get support for this in "modern" tools released in 2018.

And why is that?

Only because there are 64bit users too?

No. But because 49 out of 50 people actually are 64-bit only, and because it doesn't make much sense to serve such a always decreasing "crowd". For the same reason, most plugin and DAW developers don't support Linux as well. And Cubase, Reason and Logic are even 64-bit only now, without any bridge or similar, so, it's kind of obvious how things will develop sooner or later.

[EvilDragon]

No, not really. That bug goes WAY back. Like, before multicore CPUs back.

Doh´ Well done Intel.

That also means Mac is affected too. Except PPC Mac

[Aloysius]

Can all of the ''progressives'' who want 64bit only please list your system spec's for posterity? In years to come I want to have a good hearty laugh at what you considered state of the art at the beginning of 2018.

[Cinebient]

No, not really. That bug goes WAY back. Like, before multicore CPUs back.

Doh´ Well done Intel.

That also means Mac is affected too. Except PPC Mac

My iOS devices also not
They are also 64 bit only.

[chk071]

I think the 64-bit deniers should try Reaper.

No joke, as the 32-bit version of Reaper has a 64-bit bridge...