Korg updates its Legacy Collection with a new Arp Odyssey emulation

[ENV1]

No one is being selfish or depriving you of your choice.

So when they say 32bit should be killed off entirely so it wont 'take precious time away' from stuff they want (the zenith of egotism) then its just my imagination?

In the end I guess you have to work out what is more important to YOU.

I dont have to work that out, whats important to me is that everyone gets what they need.

Maybe thats a wierd attitude these days, but there you have it.

How can 32-bit users be so self-centered that they think development for their tiny userbase would be so important that it takes away precious time from things which concern a large userbase?

Thats the difference between you and me.

Even though i dont currently use a 64bit OS as my main system you could count on it that i would stand up for you if they wanted to take 64bit away from you because id hate to see you being left standing in the rain.

You on the other hand not only care solely about what you want, you would even go so far as to take away what i want by advocating for not providing stuff in 32bit anymore at all because it 'might draw away precious time' from something you want.

Sad.

[chk071]

How can 32-bit users be so self-centered that they think development for their tiny userbase would be so important that it takes away precious time from things which concern a large userbase?

Thats the difference between you and me.

Even though i dont currently use a 64bit OS as my main system you could count on it that i would stand up for you if they wanted to take 64bit away from you because id hate to see you being left standing in the rain.

You on the other hand not only care solely about what you want, you would even go so far as to take away what i want by advocating for not providing stuff in 32bit anymore at all because it 'might draw away precious time' from something you want.

Sad.

With that kind of arguing, you could also advocate for serving 1 out of a million customers, in favor of the one customer, opposed to the needs of a million of customers. That argument doesn't make much sense, i'm afraid. If developers would act accordingly, they wouldn't be able to finish, like, anything.

But, again, the market will sort that out anyway. With the kind of market share 32-bit software has now, and, they'll surely analyze the amount of downloads, i don't think it makes much sense to support it much longer.

[wagtunes]

No one is being selfish or depriving you of your choice.

So when they say 32bit should be killed off entirely so it wont 'take precious time away' from stuff they want (the zenith of egotism) then its just my imagination?

In the end I guess you have to work out what is more important to YOU.

I dont have to work that out, whats important to me is that everyone gets what they need.

Maybe thats a wierd attitude these days, but there you have it.

How can 32-bit users be so self-centered that they think development for their tiny userbase would be so important that it takes away precious time from things which concern a large userbase?

Thats the difference between you and me.

Even though i dont currently use a 64bit OS as my main system you could count on it that i would stand up for you if they wanted to take 64bit away from you because id hate to see you being left standing in the rain.

You on the other hand not only care solely about what you want, you would even go so far as to take away what i want by advocating for not providing stuff in 32bit anymore at all because it 'might draw away precious time' from something you want.

Sad.

ENV1, let me ask you a serious question. Where do we draw the line? Do we still maintain software for those running Windows 95? How about XP? When Microsoft officially cuts off support for Windows 7 (I really need to find that date that they announced it would happen) do we still support Windows 7?

How far back do you want to go with the "everybody should be supported" mentality?

I'm just curious where your "line in the sand" is.

[EvilDragon]

W7 support ends Jan 14, 2020.

[ENV1]

With that kind of arguing, you could also advocate for serving 1 out of a million customers, in favor of the one customer, opposed to the needs of a million of customers. That argument doesn't make much sense, i'm afraid. If developers would act accordingly, they wouldn't be able to finish, like, anything.

But, again, the market will sort that out anyway. With the kind of market share 32-bit software has now, and, they'll surely analyze the amount of downloads, i don't think it makes much sense to support it much longer.

Look, i wouldnt say a word if i was using a Commodore ViC-20.

Nobody in their right mind could expect support for that.

Or if i was one of the only 10 persons left on the planent who use a 32bit OS.

But thats not what im using. Im using a modern Personal Computer with a modern 32bit Operating System and so do millions of other people if the figures are correct.

So you will please excuse me if this egotistic 'kill 32bit so i get my toys faster' makes me a bit miffed.

You would be too if the situation was reversed.

[jsp1979]

It's just bizarre that you see your request as completely altruistic and selfless (even though it caters to your desires) while calling others selfish.

[Cinebient]

With that kind of arguing, you could also advocate for serving 1 out of a million customers, in favor of the one customer, opposed to the needs of a million of customers. That argument doesn't make much sense, i'm afraid. If developers would act accordingly, they wouldn't be able to finish, like, anything.

But, again, the market will sort that out anyway. With the kind of market share 32-bit software has now, and, they'll surely analyze the amount of downloads, i don't think it makes much sense to support it much longer.

Look, i wouldnt say a word if i was using a Commodore ViC-20.

Nobody in their right mind could expect support for that.

Or if i was one of the only 10 persons left on the planent who use a 32bit OS.

But thats not what im using. Im using a modern Personal Computer with a modern 32bit Operating System and so do millions of other people if the figures are correct.

So you will please excuse me if this egotistic 'kill 32bit so i get my toys faster' makes me a bit miffed.

You would be too if the situation was reversed.

What is a modern 32bit operating system?
Don´t take us to serious. I think you know what we mean and you know what we think.
As it´s already said, ask Korg for further things.

[Aloysius]

It's just bizarre that you see your request as completely altruistic and selfless (even though it caters to your desires) while calling others selfish.

Did anybody write to KORG and say, please don't make any 64bit plug-ins, just stick with 32bit plug-ins? No they did not. On the other hand, the 64bit mob are insisting ... don't make any 32bit plug-ins, only make 64bit plug-ins because that's what ME (64bit User), MYSELF (64bit User) and I (64bit User) use, so fcuk everyone else. The 64bit crowd are obviously way more selfish.

EDITED: To correct typo's.

[wagtunes]

With that kind of arguing, you could also advocate for serving 1 out of a million customers, in favor of the one customer, opposed to the needs of a million of customers. That argument doesn't make much sense, i'm afraid. If developers would act accordingly, they wouldn't be able to finish, like, anything.

But, again, the market will sort that out anyway. With the kind of market share 32-bit software has now, and, they'll surely analyze the amount of downloads, i don't think it makes much sense to support it much longer.

Look, i wouldnt say a word if i was using a Commodore ViC-20.

Nobody in their right mind could expect support for that.

Or if i was one of the only 10 persons left on the planent who use a 32bit OS.

But thats not what im using. Im using a modern Personal Computer with a modern 32bit Operating System and so do millions of other people if the figures are correct.

So you will please excuse me if this egotistic 'kill 32bit so i get my toys faster' makes me a bit miffed.

You would be too if the situation was reversed.

Well, actually, I'm already a bit miffed about a lot of things regarding computers.

When I first got mine, given what I needed to do the job I needed to do, I was forced to get a 64 bit system. Wasn't my choice but I wasn't given any other options because the software I needed was only for 64 bit systems.

In addition to that, I'm miffed that every 5 years or so I have to redo my whole system and reinstall everything I have. It's a royal PITA.

I'm also miffed that every time Microsoft does a Windows update, something on my PC starts acting funny because Microsoft can't get out of its own way.

But I live with this stuff because I don't really have much choice. So around July of this year, when my current hard drive will turn 5 years old and will most likely be close to dying, I have to get together with my PC tech to work out some kind of a game plan to figure out the least painful way to get myself back up and running again.

Ideally, I would love to just be able to do some kind of update that gives me the latest operating system, increases hard drive space and, at the same time, makes it so that I don't have to reinstall software that will take weeks, let alone hours.

But that isn't the world we live in. When you choose to make your life about computers (something I've been doing since 1984) these are the annoyances that you have to learn to live with.

Unsupported software is one of those annoyances. Or I'd still be playing the original Duke Nukem off of 3.5 inch floppy.

Damn, those were the days.

[nordickvr]

...So you will please excuse me if this egotistic 'kill 32bit so i get my toys faster' makes me a bit miffed...

It's not about having toys faster, but thinking within dev's perspective.

[ENV1]

ENV1, let me ask you a serious question. Where do we draw the line? Do we still maintain software for those running Windows 95? How about XP? When Microsoft officially cuts off support for Windows 7 (I really need to find that date that they announced it would happen) do we still support Windows 7?

How far back do you want to go with the "everybody should be supported" mentality?

I'm just curious where your "line in the sand" is.

If you want an honest answer, id say it depends.

There may be good reasons to cease support for OS flavors older than Windows7, i.e. compatibility reasons.

But no such reason exists with regard to bitness because stuff that runs on a 32bit OS usually runs on 64bit too.

(Or the other way around, if you prefer.)


At any rate, what there is absolutely NO reason for at all is to kill 32bit only so some people who just dont give a damn about others can get their toys faster. (If that would even be the case.)

This is sheer inexcusable egotism and in my opinion has no place in a civilized society.

[thecontrolcentre]

the 64bit mob ...

[Aloysius]

[chk071]

At any rate, what there is absolutely NO reason for at all is to kill 32bit only so some people who just dont give a damn about others can get their toys faster. (If that would even be the case.)

As nordickvr pointed out, it's not about "getting toys faster", when a one man business is considering the pros and cons of having a lot more work to serve a very small group of people.

And, forgive me when i say that "a modern 32-bit OS" is pretty much the oxymoron of the century. The only reason Windows 10 is still coming as a 32-bit version is because of devices with 1 or 2 gigs of RAM. And, the market share of that OS is appropriate.

[Aloysius]

KORG is not a one man operation. Maybe you're new to the scene but they've been around for a while.