ARP ODYSSEY (Korg Collection) - how does it sound?

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bungle15 wrote:Simple question

How do i Access the Arpegiator If there Is no boxes at the top to access It.
Am I missing something on the Latest Korg Arp Oddessy??

Is It me , Is It a Bug or is it because there Is a different way to program It??
You have to scroll with the mouse wheel, I discovered it by accident

Arcvidean.

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Stefken wrote:
Cinebient wrote:
egbert101 wrote:I can only give my impression of Oddity 2, and it sounds gorgeous. Since I own that, I see no reason to own the Korg version.
Beside that Korg synth sound much better......for me at least and the GUI (even if they might too small) looks MUCH better.
I bought it yesterday and just played with it for 15 minutes.

The new Korg sounds better and has a nicer GUI than Oddity2.
The Korg emulation is functionally closer to the original.
Oddity2 has an extra suboscillator for extra bottom end and possibility to assign extra ADSRs. This is a nice addition. The Korg only has one ADSR.

No subosc, but the Korg can surely produce a lot of fatness by using its unison.

The filters sounds differently. Filter I in the Korg is very fat. There still seems to be a bug in the filters as filter II and filter III have a large loudness drop compared to filter I. This cannot be by design.

The Korg sequencer/arp is a nice addition. You can sequence pitch, gate and 3 user parameters.
They have chosen for an old school approach in the GUI in line with the original GUI. That means that you can only see the sequence of 1 parameter at a time. It would be nice though if you could see the sequences of multiple parameters at the same time.

That's about what I can say by playing with it for 15 minutes.

It does sound nice so the price is worth it for me.
About the loudness it is the same on my iPhone and i think it is by design.
Not sure but isn´t the fiilter 1 a 12db lowpass and the other 2 24db and they loose a lot volume if you turn up the resonance (like in Repro).

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Cinebient wrote:
Stefken wrote:
Cinebient wrote:
egbert101 wrote:I can only give my impression of Oddity 2, and it sounds gorgeous. Since I own that, I see no reason to own the Korg version.
Beside that Korg synth sound much better......for me at least and the GUI (even if they might too small) looks MUCH better.
I bought it yesterday and just played with it for 15 minutes.

The new Korg sounds better and has a nicer GUI than Oddity2.
The Korg emulation is functionally closer to the original.
Oddity2 has an extra suboscillator for extra bottom end and possibility to assign extra ADSRs. This is a nice addition. The Korg only has one ADSR.

No subosc, but the Korg can surely produce a lot of fatness by using its unison.

The filters sounds differently. Filter I in the Korg is very fat. There still seems to be a bug in the filters as filter II and filter III have a large loudness drop compared to filter I. This cannot be by design.

The Korg sequencer/arp is a nice addition. You can sequence pitch, gate and 3 user parameters.
They have chosen for an old school approach in the GUI in line with the original GUI. That means that you can only see the sequence of 1 parameter at a time. It would be nice though if you could see the sequences of multiple parameters at the same time.

That's about what I can say by playing with it for 15 minutes.

It does sound nice so the price is worth it for me.
About the loudness it is the same on my iPhone and i think it is by design.
Not sure but isn´t the fiilter 1 a 12db lowpass and the other 2 24db and they loose a lot volume if you turn up the resonance (like in Repro).
The resonance is the only factor I could attribute it to, if it is by design.
I'll check this evening if that is the guilty one. Still, I did not see this behavior with Oddity.

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Yeah, the second filter is the one where they ran afoul of Moog for cribbing their transistor ladder filter (or so the story goes), and when you up the resonance on one of those the bottom tends to fall out. Same thing happens on my Mother-32 and Minilogue.

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Arcvidean wrote:
bungle15 wrote:Simple question

How do i Access the Arpegiator If there Is no boxes at the top to access It.
Am I missing something on the Latest Korg Arp Oddessy??

Is It me , Is It a Bug or is it because there Is a different way to program It??
You have to scroll with the mouse wheel, I discovered it by accident

Arcvidean.
:party:
Thanks mate. I feel a little dumb now but put the blame on the lack of a scrollbar or something :lol:

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Stefken wrote:
Cinebient wrote:
Stefken wrote:
Cinebient wrote:
egbert101 wrote:I can only give my impression of Oddity 2, and it sounds gorgeous. Since I own that, I see no reason to own the Korg version.
Beside that Korg synth sound much better......for me at least and the GUI (even if they might too small) looks MUCH better.
I bought it yesterday and just played with it for 15 minutes.

The new Korg sounds better and has a nicer GUI than Oddity2.
The Korg emulation is functionally closer to the original.
Oddity2 has an extra suboscillator for extra bottom end and possibility to assign extra ADSRs. This is a nice addition. The Korg only has one ADSR.

No subosc, but the Korg can surely produce a lot of fatness by using its unison.

The filters sounds differently. Filter I in the Korg is very fat. There still seems to be a bug in the filters as filter II and filter III have a large loudness drop compared to filter I. This cannot be by design.

The Korg sequencer/arp is a nice addition. You can sequence pitch, gate and 3 user parameters.
They have chosen for an old school approach in the GUI in line with the original GUI. That means that you can only see the sequence of 1 parameter at a time. It would be nice though if you could see the sequences of multiple parameters at the same time.

That's about what I can say by playing with it for 15 minutes.

It does sound nice so the price is worth it for me.
About the loudness it is the same on my iPhone and i think it is by design.
Not sure but isn´t the fiilter 1 a 12db lowpass and the other 2 24db and they loose a lot volume if you turn up the resonance (like in Repro).
The resonance is the only factor I could attribute it to, if it is by design.
I'll check this evening if that is the guilty one. Still, I did not see this behavior with Oddity.
I checked it out and it's not the resonance. That is, the resonance thing does happen: you lose bottom end when you up the resonance. But the loudness drop is an added behavior on top of that.
It may have something to do with how the signal is driven: you can compensate more or less (depending on the patch) with the drive.
( General things as upping the level, eq-ing or compressing will off course also change your loudness. )

It's a thing to be conscious about : you can create different flavors with different settings of the filter, cutoff frequence, resonance and drive but you have to be conscious of a diminished loudness when switching from filter I to II or III.

Oddity2 does not exhibit that behavior: the loudness stays on the same level when switching filters and the result is more easy to predict: one is fatter, one is more zappy and one is more mellow. I think in Oddity2 they changed the behavior somewhat from the original to make it more 'musical' (for lack of a better word). I know that they willingly introduced the mellow character to contrast with the fat filter.

In Korg Odeyssey the behavior and differences between the filters is more subtle in flavor and less easy to describe.
Last edited by Stefken on Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:23 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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Hi Hemmick and to all

Thanks for trying to help
I had a BLOND MOMENT!!!
You have three screen buttons top right
I thought the full size button at the top was the synth all In one.
I was put right.

You have to scroll up a little and there is the Arp and sequencer section :hihi:
It does not tell you In the manual though.Maybe I was thinking too deep!! :roll:

I thought the full size was IT :ud:
I do feel a bit of a willywonker!! :scared:
The more I delve now the better it gets. HAPPY NOW!! :D


All the Best
John
Last edited by bungle15 on Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:21 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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No Problems...
Software is complex and can catch the best of us out... it's usually about checking or unchecking something simple and seems obvious later.
I've done it many a time :?

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There are 3 small rectangles at top right

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