Please give Waveform support for non english keyboards

[GearNostalgia]

Hello. It took me several days to activate my license because the password on the site accepts local letters like äåö in Swedish. But Waveform activate does not understand them so it thinks it is the wrong password.

The same problem goes for the hotkeys. It I am using my standard Swedish keyboard layout I can not use split note cause the slash is not located in the same position and hidden behind SHIFT on our keyboard.

Please fix the keyboardmapping so it follows the language selected in Windows or change so that you don't use keys that are not international like SLASH.

[chico.co.uk]

I get what you're saying, and the non-english character issue with auth is probably a bug that needs fixing, but personally I use the / keyboard shortcut all the time, and wouldn't want that remapped to anything else.

You can remap it yourself, to whatever you want, in the settings tab, under Keyboard Shortcuts. It's there in the Editing section of that screen. You can also save that off, in case you want to use your own shortcuts on a second laptop, or whatever. So that's a workaround for that bit. But the auth thing sounds like a bug

It's not totally relevant to what you're having trouble with, but there is some support for non-english users, in the General Behaviour bit of the settings tab. You can download additional languages files, which translate the gui, and the popup help etc, to other languages. There's support for languages like Arabic, Chinese, French, German, Italian, Japanese etc, but unfortunately not Swedish (yet)

You can create your own .lang file, to translate it to Swedish, if it matters to you, and share it on the Tracktion language wiki linked off that settings page. I'm not sure if downloading a new language also updates the keyboard shortcuts to use keys appropriate for those own language keyboards. I think it probably doesn't.

[GearNostalgia]

I get what you're saying, and the non-english character issue with auth is probably a bug that needs fixing, but personally I use the / keyboard shortcut all the time, and wouldn't want that remapped to anything else.

You can remap it yourself, to whatever you want, in the settings tab, under Keyboard Shortcuts. It's there in the Editing section of that screen. You can also save that off, in case you want to use your own shortcuts on a second laptop, or whatever. So that's a workaround for that bit. But the auth thing sounds like a bug

It's not totally relevant to what you're having trouble with, but there is some support for non-english users, in the General Behaviour bit of the settings tab. You can download additional languages files, which translate the gui, and the popup help etc, to other languages. There's support for languages like Arabic, Chinese, French, German, Italian, Japanese etc, but unfortunately not Swedish (yet)

You can create your own .lang file, to translate it to Swedish, if it matters to you, and share it on the Tracktion language wiki linked off that settings page. I'm not sure if downloading a new language also updates the keyboard shortcuts to use keys appropriate for those own language keyboards. I think it probably doesn't.

I have not seen a list of all the keys they are using but i doubt the have used up all combos of CTRL+SHIFT+Standardletters so I think they could very well use another letter och sign that is not it the language specific zone. And I doubt you are to thick to learn to press CTRL+SHIFT+d or whatever We simply don't even have a sign to press here. Remap sure all of from other parts of the world could do that , but then they should rewrite the manual too and in all places they use language specific combos add "And for all of you that don't have this keybinding go to section... and remap you hotkeys"... Not a very practical solution. I am not deep into the windows setup for keybindings, but I guess it can be handled to put / where it belongs too so they might be able to fix it in code if it turns out that there is a lot of /-zealots. Anyway this caused me to dig around for hours to find out why I could not split notes.

[Storfot]

The same problem goes for the hotkeys. It I am using my standard Swedish keyboard layout I can not use split note cause the slash is not located in the same position and hidden behind SHIFT on our keyboard.

Please fix the keyboardmapping so it follows the language selected in Windows or change so that you don't use keys that are not international like SLASH.

If you would use an external- (not laptop-) keyboard you would find the slash in the numerical part (used for division).

[chico.co.uk]

Yeah, / is a single designated hardware key on English language keyboards, and other locales. Telling the rest of the world to use three fingers instead of one for a common key command maybe isn't ideal either. Especially in a product that's used that keyboard shortcut for over a decade

[chico.co.uk]

Isn't it Shift + 7 on swedish keyboards?

[Storfot]

Isn't it Shift + 7 on swedish keyboards?

Yes it is.

[GearNostalgia]

Isn't it Shift + 7 on swedish keyboards?

Yes it is.

Yes if you want to write /, but here it is the same key as lies under -_ I think and that was not easy to guess when reading the manual. Now I have changed it my preset so it is 7 instead, but it is not very logical that what is in the manual does not work.

[chico.co.uk]

Sorry, I don't understand that.

[Storfot]

Please fix the keyboardmapping so it follows the language selected in Windows or change so that you don't use keys that are not international like SLASH.

Another solution might be to add english keyboard layout to your setup so you could switch to the english layout when using the daw.
Seems easy enough: https://www.conversationexchange.com/re ... .php?lg=en

[GearNostalgia]

Sorry, I don't understand that.

It is not what is written on the key but where the key is placed on the keyboard that counts. See it as if you take out your key A on the keyboard and the P and swap their places. Then you take the letter A and pain say M on it. Hand that keyboard over to a user and tell him to press the A key. That is how it works for me when the / is not / and but the key - is slash and it is an totally different place.

[GearNostalgia]

Please fix the keyboardmapping so it follows the language selected in Windows or change so that you don't use keys that are not international like SLASH.

Another solution might be to add english keyboard layout to your setup so you could switch to the english layout when using the daw.
Seems easy enough: https://www.conversationexchange.com/re ... .php?lg=en

Thank you for trying, but no that is another un-userfriendly suggestion. If I do that I can not use a lot of other funktions and I can not write names, lyrics or whatever I need in my own language.

[chico.co.uk]

Sorry, I don't understand that.

It is not what is written on the key but where the key is placed on the keyboard that counts. See it as if you take out your key A on the keyboard and the P and swap their places. Then you take the letter A and pain say M on it. Hand that keyboard over to a user and tell him to press the A key. That is how it works for me when the / is not / and but the key - is slash and it is an totally different place.

I sort of get that, in the sense that English language keyboards have QWERTY across the top letter keys, whereas French keyboards have AZERTY in the same place, but I don't get the relevance to the problem. I'm not having a go, I'm just trying to understand the issue, I do believe there's a problem, I just don't quite get what doesn't work.

On an English keyboard the / character is a separate key, near the bottom, on the right, just above the space bar. I understand you don't have that key, on a Swedish keyboard, that's a different character, on your keyboard. So I imagine pressing that doesn't slice the clip, because it's not a / character

But are you saying that if you use Shift and 7, that *doesn't* slice the clip either? Or does that work? And does that key have the / character drawn on it, on your keyboard, or not?

[JonasB]

Swedish user here as well. In my case the shift-7 on a macbook pro did not slice the clip. Also Swedish keyboard. Since I have both the US and Swedish keyboards well ingrained in my fingers i switched to the US one.

But on the same note, and possibly related - the Swedish characters åÅ, äÄ and öÖ aren't encoded properly, so when I name clips/songs with those, it is encoded with some erroneous symbols. Exporting files etc from these projects with weird looking names works nice though, and the exported files has the proper umlauts; so maybe it is just a poor choice of font on Waveform?

[HansP]

the quagmire already started in the 80ies, when IBM together with German zealots decided to rename everything IT into German language, and to produce a keyboard that has no / at the location, that had been a standardized thing since long before.
and then, unfortunately, many countries followed that blunder, when they should have enforced the production of keyboards with at least 5 more actual letter keys. no, they added a gazillion of "function" keys, like starting CD play or something.
there were mechanical typewriters with reduced and with extended layouts since long, so what?
you can't eat your cake and still have it. international IT has to somewhat compromise traditional national language devices and habits. as international trade is doing as well.