Viper｜1.2.2 update with bugfixes and new skin

[adamszabo]

Guys guys, please lets keep it calm around here, I dont want the topic to get locked

adamtrance, will there be added Sync module in the future? like the one in Virus Ti

Also i have found a bug:

If you copy over the patch that is using Multisaw, in the copied version the display on the left wount be updated if you change voice count in the oscillator.

Whats a Sync module? I am not sure I understand. You mean Oscillator Sync? Viper already ha that. Hmm, I tried to reproduce the bug but everything seems to work fine here. I would need to see a video of whats happening.

In my defense, there is a difference between a "new" and a "second hand" synth. I dont know how others do it, but when you buy a synth from my website, you sign an "agreement", and it is between me and the buyer. If the buyer sells that license to somebody I dont have that agreement with him because I never made any. That way I cannot provide support and future updates. Thats why its important that I value my customers and offer free updates for them. I cannot do the same who is not my customer.

[Aliens]

So your synth is nfr?

[Pyrotek45]

In my defense, there is a difference between a "new" and a "second hand" synth. I dont know how others do it, but when you buy a synth from my website, you sign an "agreement", and it is between me and the buyer. If the buyer sells that license to somebody I dont have that agreement with him because I never made any. That way I cannot provide support and future updates. Thats why its important that I value my customers and offer free updates for them. I cannot do the same who is not my customer.

That's valid and I don't disagree; just to clarify however, I'm speaking from a pure software point of view. agreements and other such things however should imo go where the license goes.

For instance, if someone were to sell your copy you could ask for a transfer fee and blacklist the old owner and give the new owner a new license. seems like a fair system thats been tried and tested.(Xfer for example)

[murnau]

So your synth is nfr?

That's the only reason that software can indeed became "used".

[Pyrotek45]

So your synth is nfr?

That's the only reason that software can indeed became "used".

eh "used"? i wouldn't go that far, its just "nfr". I know I know, its semantics at this point.

[Aliens]

I don't care about the argument above, I just want to know if licence transfers are in or out.

Nfr?

[adamszabo]

I don't care about the argument above, I just want to know if licence transfers are in or out.

Nfr?

No its not nfr, you can sell it if you want, but I cannot add the new person to my database and he wont get any new updates.

[Aliens]

I don't care about the argument above, I just want to know if licence transfers are in or out.

Nfr?

No its not nfr, you can sell it if you want, but I cannot add the new person to my database and he wont get any new updates.

So for all intents and purposes it's not for resale.
No licence transfer.

Wow!

[xbitz]

multisaw synch is missing, isn't it ?

or I'm maybe blind :S

[adamszabo]

I don't care about the argument above, I just want to know if licence transfers are in or out.

Nfr?

No its not nfr, you can sell it if you want, but I cannot add the new person to my database and he wont get any new updates.

So for all intents and purposes it's not for resale.
No licence transfer.

Wow!

Maybe there was a misunderstanding. What I meant is that right now my webshop adds the customers into my database and generates their license for them. However I dont know yet how to do this manually yet, so I cant add them to the database myself. I think a license transfer fee solution could work once I figure out this problem.

multisaw synch is missing, isn't it ?

I am not sure of the sync in the multisaw will happen, its very complicated to do, and you can do similar sounds with the unison and osc sync anyway. I have to do lots of other more important ideas first

[Aliens]

Maybe there was a misunderstanding. What I meant is that right now my webshop adds the customers into my database and generates their license for them. However I dont know yet how to do this manually yet, so I cant add them to the database myself. I think a license transfer fee solution could work once I figure out this problem.

No confusion here, until now. You categorically said no second hand buyers would be added to the data base, now you're saying you might do paid licence transfers, some time in the future.

This should all have been part of the roll out thought process.

[Elektronisch]

Guys guys, please lets keep it calm around here, I dont want the topic to get locked

adamtrance, will there be added Sync module in the future? like the one in Virus Ti

Also i have found a bug:

If you copy over the patch that is using Multisaw, in the copied version the display on the left wount be updated if you change voice count in the oscillator.

Whats a Sync module? I am not sure I understand. You mean Oscillator Sync? Viper already ha that. Hmm, I tried to reproduce the bug but everything seems to work fine here. I would need to see a video of whats happening.

multisaw synch is missing, isn't it ?

or I'm maybe blind :S

This Sync because of it missing its quite impossible to replicate patches that are using Hypersaw sync

Ill get back to the bug tomorrow as im going to sleep now

[adamszabo]

No confusion here, until now. You categorically said no second hand buyers would be added to the data base, now you're saying you might do paid licence transfers, some time in the future.

This should all have been part of the roll out thought process.

Yes you are quite right, all I know is that I havent had time to think about it yet, Im tired, im exhausted, I had 100 things to think about at the same time, I just want to be left alone for 2 months, and then everyone can ask questions when im back

[Aliens]

Great, but that doesn't help potential purchasers right now.
I know I won't buy from you until I know there's a working 64bit version and a licence transfer policy in place.

I won't speak for others, but caveat emptor and all that, kvr.

[xbitz]

No confusion here, until now. You categorically said no second hand buyers would be added to the data base, now you're saying you might do paid licence transfers, some time in the future.

This should all have been part of the roll out thought process.

Yes you are quite right, all I know is that I havent had time to think about it yet, Im tired, im exhausted, I had 100 things to think about at the same time, I just want to be left alone for 2 months, and then everyone can ask questions when im back

IMHO create an account on uservoice.com like https://energyxt.uservoice.com/forums/31359-coming-next

put the link into your signature here (edit profile) on kvraudio then goto sleep u deserve it please don't get a nervous collapse