Says the guy who has no proof whatsoever for what he is claiming.chk071 wrote:Oh no, it's back.
Seriously, dude, don't let anyone interrupt you in further using 32-bit. Just don't pretend you're speaking for anything but a really small minority here. If you're really think you're not, then you're REALLY deluded. But, frankly, the way you're acting, i think you really are.
Get back to me when you 've stopped being so religiously fundamentalistic and deluded.Really, i thought you were a decent fella, but, you're so religiously vehement, and blinded about this, that you don't even want to admit that the 32-bit customer base is a very small one by now, and that work should better be focused on serving a big customer base, than a small one. Ever worked in your life? Well, then you probably know that it's always about serving a big amount of people, rather than a small one, and that economic considerations of course take into account, if effort and work is worth serving the customers, if there's so damn, damn few of them, when you just can sell your work for a large amount of people.
I wont get back to you at all if you continue on this niveau.chk071 wrote:Get back to me when you 've stopped being so religiously fundamentalistic and deluded.
There's absolutely no need for it when - 3 of the most used hosts are 64-bit by now - Korg (and others) release their new synth as a 64-bit only. Why would they do that? To exclude many potential customers, or to save money by not having to develop and test a version they know only few people will buy anyway? And, if you take a look on this site and elsewhere, it's written all over the place. You don't need numbers, the numbers are already used to calculate business decisions in the respective companies.wagtunes wrote:You know, ENV1 makes a good point. Where is the data that shows the percentage of people using 64 bit opposed to 32 bit?
This is really not very applicable here. Many people using audio software are on Mac OS (guess what, yeah, 64-bit only now, without even the ability to bridge plugins, or use 32-bit software at all), and, even the distribution of Windows versions could be different. From what i read here day by day though, most seem to be on 64-bit (only) by now, and, Cubase, Reason and Logic are definitely 64-bit only now, and Cubase doesn't have a bit-bridge since version 9. Studio One also has no bit bridge, so , natively, if you're on 64-bit Studio One, there's no way you can use 32-bit plugins, unless you buy jBridge, or 32Lives. Frankly, even without pulling numbers from my arse (where would i get those anyway, p'lease?), it's absolutely safe to say that 32-bit is dying out, and that there's not many these days, which are 32-bit only. Just take a look around, and you'll see. Or not, if you happen to have a piece of wood nailed on your forehead.wagtunes wrote:Okay, found some more data from 1 year ago. This is very interesting.
For Windows 7 users, 64 bit was only 40% with 32 bit 60%.
However, for Windows 8 users, 64 bit was between 85% and 90%.
So to get a realistic number for the share of 32 bit users, you would need to find out how many Windows 7 users there still are. This could be difficult, if not impossible to do, because I don't think Microsoft tracks Windows 7 usage anymore.
However, given the average life span of a hard drive (5 years) it is safe to assume that by 2023, there will be no more Windows 7 users as they won't even be able to get the OS anymore. So at that time, it would be a safe bet to assume that at least 90% of the Windows population will be on 64 bit.
So there is no question, based on the data I've found so far, that 32 bit is not that far off from being extinct or close to it. I mean every machine's processor made today is made to run on 64 bit only. So if you're going to attempt to maintain a 32 bit machine, you're going to have a very difficult time doing it from a hardware perspective alone.
Thus, the incentive for software manufacturers to continue to support 32 bit will be non existent in 5 years.
And yes, the data is there. This is indisputable.
So, for those on 32 bit right now, stock up on 32 bit processors and RAM (in case your RAM goes bad) and just keep rebuilding your PCs as they die. But the software makers will be deserting you in 5 years. My guess is, 10 years tops.
I'm sure enough about this that I would bet money on it.
But I will continue searching for more recent data if anybody wants me to.
It is out there.
Thank you for your comments. Glad you got that out of your system.chk071 wrote:This is really not very applicable here. Many people using audio software are on Mac OS (guess what, yeah, 64-bit only now, without even the ability to bridge plugins, or use 32-bit software at all), and, even the distribution of Windows versions could be different. From what i read here day by day though, most seem to be on 64-bit (only) by now, and, Cubase, Reason and Logic are definitely 64-bit only now, and Cubase doesn't have a bit-bridge since version 9. Studio One also has no bit bridge, so , natively, if you're on 64-bit Studio One, there's no way you can use 32-bit plugins, unless you buy jBridge, or 32Lives. Frankly, even without pulling numbers from my arse (where would i get those anyway, p'lease?), it's absolutely safe to say that 32-bit is dying out, and that there's not many these days, which are 32-bit only. Just take a look around, and you'll see. Or not, if you happen to have a piece of wood nailed on your forehead.wagtunes wrote:Okay, found some more data from 1 year ago. This is very interesting.
For Windows 7 users, 64 bit was only 40% with 32 bit 60%.
However, for Windows 8 users, 64 bit was between 85% and 90%.
So to get a realistic number for the share of 32 bit users, you would need to find out how many Windows 7 users there still are. This could be difficult, if not impossible to do, because I don't think Microsoft tracks Windows 7 usage anymore.
However, given the average life span of a hard drive (5 years) it is safe to assume that by 2023, there will be no more Windows 7 users as they won't even be able to get the OS anymore. So at that time, it would be a safe bet to assume that at least 90% of the Windows population will be on 64 bit.
So there is no question, based on the data I've found so far, that 32 bit is not that far off from being extinct or close to it. I mean every machine's processor made today is made to run on 64 bit only. So if you're going to attempt to maintain a 32 bit machine, you're going to have a very difficult time doing it from a hardware perspective alone.
Thus, the incentive for software manufacturers to continue to support 32 bit will be non existent in 5 years.
And yes, the data is there. This is indisputable.
So, for those on 32 bit right now, stock up on 32 bit processors and RAM (in case your RAM goes bad) and just keep rebuilding your PCs as they die. But the software makers will be deserting you in 5 years. My guess is, 10 years tops.
I'm sure enough about this that I would bet money on it.
But I will continue searching for more recent data if anybody wants me to.
It is out there.
I like the clonky spanner noises of the init Wavestation patchbioroid wrote:Back to Korg Collection?
You know what's funny? Half a year ago, Windows 10 64-bit has been over 50 % in that statistic, and Windows 7 64-bit had a mere 23 % or so (Windows 10 32-bit had 2 % i believe).bioroid wrote:The rest of the world is has moved on to 64-bit.
http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/ OS versions shows 64-bit at around 98%.
I read thatChina and India have a lot to do with that development, and it's also known that there are loads of illegit copies of Windows used in those countries, so, i'd figure that it's pretty distorted right now. In Germany e.g., Windows 10 is now over 50 % in terms of market distribution.Submit: News, Plugins, Hosts & Apps | Advertise @ KVR | Developer Account | About KVR / Contact Us | Privacy Statement
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