Viper｜1.2.2 update with bugfixes and new skin

[BlitBit]

My business makes it mandatory that I get synths that are that popular.

If I was you I would invest 60$ in REAPER, install the 32 bit version of it, buy Viper and create sound sets for it so that you can enter the market for them early. Once the 64 bit version is out (see my previous post about his experimental builds) you will already have sound sets to sell. I assume that it will become quite big once the 64 bit version is out.

The business risk here is "losing" 89$ + 60$ = 149$ although you don't really lose anything because you will still have REAPER and Viper.

[wagtunes]

Im pretty sure this synth sales will be good if not better then most recent synths simply because of the market he is in.

This synth is not for KVR people but for music producers who make edm, big room, trance, hardstyle, hardcore ect. So your complains and lost revenue is like max 10%.

I follow those communities and between producers of those genres Virus is a holy grail and seeing how much hype this synth has i can guarantee this synth might end up a same classic as sylenth.

So you can complain with 100 and more synths with 64 bit no one cares about that because in the end you wount end up being a target audience for this synth

Actually, I am a target audience for any synth that comes out, especially if it's one that has a large target demographic musically.

My business makes it mandatory that I get synths that are that popular.

Not really because no one cares about your soundbanks in a popular electronic dance music genres because thats not your target audience

You are not Hardwell, not Armin Van Buuren, not Headhunterz ect ect no one is looking up to you. And alot of big popular names in electronic music do use Virus and theyr followers are just looking up to them and especialy the producers are looking what are they using. do you understand where im trying to say?

Well, let me then be as succinct as possible in my reply.

Regardless of what you think of my skills or lack thereof in creating sound libraries, they do (believe it or not) sell. In fact, some synths that are hard core electronic dance music synths are some of my best sellers. In fact, Serum is my #1 seller of all my libraries.

So yes, every synth that I purchase, regardless of your opinion of my skills, puts significant income in my pocket.

So no, you are wrong. Every synth that comes out, ESPECIALLY if it is one that is going to be popular, is CRITICAL for me to purchase because (believe it or not) I will make lots of money with my sound library from that synth.

I know this is a shock to you but don't worry, you'll get over it.

[AnX]

Correct me if im wrong, but Adam hasnt chosen to do 32bit only, thats down to flowstone, which i understand is working towards 64bit export. I know he chose to use flowstone, but thats the environment he is experienced in, so you cant really blame him.

I'll try it at some point, my host has 32 and 64bit versions, so not a prob to demo it, but i prob wont buy it. I think ive got this type of stuff covered.

Hopefully it will be a success for him

[wagtunes]

My business makes it mandatory that I get synths that are that popular.

If I was you I would invest 60$ in REAPER, install the 32 bit version of it, buy Viper and create sound sets for it so that you can enter the market for them early. Once the 64 bit version is out (see my previous post about his experimental builds) you will already have sound sets to sell. I assume that it will become quite big once the 64 bit version is out.

The business risk here is "losing" 89$ + 60$ = 149$ although you don't really lose anything because you will still have REAPER and Viper.

I don't even have to get Reaper as I have the 32 bit version of MuLab which comes with the 64 bit version. I don't use it (It's still the limited non pro version) but I can test software with it. Usually, if it works in MuLab it will work in Cubase.

And yeah, I could do that and make my library and sell it and make my money. But guess what? After I've done that, I'm still left with a VST that I can't use for making music (Yes, I do make lots of music if you'll check my Soundcloud page) until a 64 bit version comes out. To me, that's a waste. Especially when I have so many VSTs that I can make libraries for AND use for making music.

Like I said, I'm patient and I can wait.

[wagtunes]

Im pretty sure this synth sales will be good if not better then most recent synths simply because of the market he is in.

This synth is not for KVR people but for music producers who make edm, big room, trance, hardstyle, hardcore ect. So your complains and lost revenue is like max 10%.

I follow those communities and between producers of those genres Virus is a holy grail and seeing how much hype this synth has i can guarantee this synth might end up a same classic as sylenth.

So you can complain with 100 and more synths with 64 bit no one cares about that because in the end you wount end up being a target audience for this synth

Actually, I am a target audience for any synth that comes out, especially if it's one that has a large target demographic musically.

My business makes it mandatory that I get synths that are that popular.

Not really because no one cares about your soundbanks in a popular electronic dance music genres because thats not your target audience

You are not Hardwell, not Armin Van Buuren, not Headhunterz ect ect no one is looking up to you. And alot of big popular names in electronic music do use Virus and theyr followers are just looking up to them and especialy the producers are looking what are they using. do you understand where im trying to say?

These are my top 10 selling libraries. I'll leave it to you to figure out which ones are used for Electronic Dance Music.

1. Serum
2. Softube Modular
3. Falcon
4. Omnisphere
5. Zebra 2
6. Bazille
7. Omnisphere 2
8. Avenger
9. Arturia Collection
10. Dune 2

I am sure there are at least 3 or 4 synths on that list used for Electronic Dance Music.

[Elektronisch]

Im pretty sure this synth sales will be good if not better then most recent synths simply because of the market he is in.

This synth is not for KVR people but for music producers who make edm, big room, trance, hardstyle, hardcore ect. So your complains and lost revenue is like max 10%.

I follow those communities and between producers of those genres Virus is a holy grail and seeing how much hype this synth has i can guarantee this synth might end up a same classic as sylenth.

So you can complain with 100 and more synths with 64 bit no one cares about that because in the end you wount end up being a target audience for this synth

Actually, I am a target audience for any synth that comes out, especially if it's one that has a large target demographic musically.

My business makes it mandatory that I get synths that are that popular.

Not really because no one cares about your soundbanks in a popular electronic dance music genres because thats not your target audience

You are not Hardwell, not Armin Van Buuren, not Headhunterz ect ect no one is looking up to you. And alot of big popular names in electronic music do use Virus and theyr followers are just looking up to them and especialy the producers are looking what are they using. do you understand where im trying to say?

Well, let me then be as succinct as possible in my reply.

Regardless of what you think of my skills or lack thereof in creating sound libraries, they do (believe it or not) sell. In fact, some synths that are hard core electronic dance music synths are some of my best sellers. In fact, Serum is my #1 seller of all my libraries.

So yes, every synth that I purchase, regardless of your opinion of my skills, puts significant income in my pocket.

So no, you are wrong. Every synth that comes out, ESPECIALLY if it is one that is going to be popular, is CRITICAL for me to purchase because (believe it or not) I will make lots of money with my sound library from that synth.

I know this is a shock to you but don't worry, you'll get over it.

Dont want to start an argument with you Wagtunes but hop of your high horse and stop pretending so important like some big shot. I know varying numbers of popular libraries and you really dont make lots of money especialy seing play count on your soundcloud

Yeah your best selling libraries, how much did you actually sold of those? Serum like 5, 10, 15, ok 20! Woe woe!

Dude you still dont get it. Just go away. No electronic dance music producer cares or looks up to some Wagtunes.

[swatwork]

So no, you are wrong. Every synth that comes out, ESPECIALLY if it is one that is going to be popular, is CRITICAL for me to purchase because (believe it or not) I will make lots of money with my sound library from that synth.

Why not just install the 32-bit version of Cubase 7 alongside your existing setup? Or perhaps just Cubase Elements (version 7 32-bit will work with your Cubase license) if all you need is a sound design setup?

If your sound design work really is that important to you why not make a small effort to work with what's available now rather than waiting for what might be available some time in the future. It's not as if your patches are going to be 32-bit only.

[wagtunes]

Im pretty sure this synth sales will be good if not better then most recent synths simply because of the market he is in.

This synth is not for KVR people but for music producers who make edm, big room, trance, hardstyle, hardcore ect. So your complains and lost revenue is like max 10%.

I follow those communities and between producers of those genres Virus is a holy grail and seeing how much hype this synth has i can guarantee this synth might end up a same classic as sylenth.

So you can complain with 100 and more synths with 64 bit no one cares about that because in the end you wount end up being a target audience for this synth

Actually, I am a target audience for any synth that comes out, especially if it's one that has a large target demographic musically.

My business makes it mandatory that I get synths that are that popular.

Not really because no one cares about your soundbanks in a popular electronic dance music genres because thats not your target audience

You are not Hardwell, not Armin Van Buuren, not Headhunterz ect ect no one is looking up to you. And alot of big popular names in electronic music do use Virus and theyr followers are just looking up to them and especialy the producers are looking what are they using. do you understand where im trying to say?

Well, let me then be as succinct as possible in my reply.

Regardless of what you think of my skills or lack thereof in creating sound libraries, they do (believe it or not) sell. In fact, some synths that are hard core electronic dance music synths are some of my best sellers. In fact, Serum is my #1 seller of all my libraries.

So yes, every synth that I purchase, regardless of your opinion of my skills, puts significant income in my pocket.

So no, you are wrong. Every synth that comes out, ESPECIALLY if it is one that is going to be popular, is CRITICAL for me to purchase because (believe it or not) I will make lots of money with my sound library from that synth.

I know this is a shock to you but don't worry, you'll get over it.

Dont want to start an argument with you Wagtunes but hop of your high horse and stop pretending so important like some big shot. I know varying numbers of popular libraries and you really dont make lots of money especialy seing play count on your soundcloud

Yeah your best selling libraries, how much did you actually sold of those? Serum like 5, 10, 15, ok 20! Woe woe!

Dude you still dont get it. Just go away. No electronic dance music producer cares or looks up to some Wagtunes.

It must be a terrible thing to have so much hatred and anger in one's heart.

I wish you nothing but the best in this New Year.

In response to the poster above, I'd have to hope that the 32 bit installer is still available for Cubase 7. I don't even know where to begin looking for it.

In addition to that, any songs I want to do with 32 bit VSTs will be limited to 32 bit VSTs only, of which I now have just a few. I wouldn't be able to use anything else. So the situation doesn't really get better. Just worse. And again, if it's just a question of having a 32 bit DAW to test VSTs in, I already have that. I don't need to install Cubase.

Ideally, I'd like one DAW that can run 32 and 64 bit VSTs together. But we don't live in an ideal world and I'm fine with that.

Anyway, I don't think there's anything more to say on this subject. Again, I wish the developer lots of success with his synth and will wait for a 64 bit version if and when it arrives.

[Examigan]

I still have Sonar Platinum installed (it can load/run 32-bit plugins) and I‘d like to check out the demo. I will try it later today and see how it goes.

[Zexila]

Make Virus clone they said...

[Roman Wisniak]

I can't understand how someone as wagtunes can criticise anyones work. I don't want to be rude. I looked at wagtunes's site, listened to his demos and... rest is silence.

[Zexila]

I just don't understand the need to make Adam miserable, he did amazing job and only way he could make it is like this, is that so hard to understand, he is the one that wants 64 bit VST/AU/RTAS/AAX/younameit the most, but that's not possible, so if you are going to buy his synth when it's 64 bit VST or AU or whatever, just shut up and do it, no need to announce it here and give him life coach lessons, he freaking knows it by now.

[Shiek927]

You guys seriously need to chill. The complaining has turned into full blown nastiness against Wagtunes. Everyone needs to collectively drop it. 64 bit is currently not available and there will be a free update when it's available. There isn't anything more that needs to be said.

I will echo what a previously user said that it can turn out to be like a new Sylenth. The later doesn't have much of the features like it's "successors" like Hive, Spire or even Viper. But it has a great tone and easy to use interface and that's something also shared in Viper .

[Zexila]

I will echo what a previously user said that it can turn out to be like a new Sylenth. The later doesn't have much of the features like it's "successors" like Hive, Spire or even Viper. But it has a great tone and easy to use interface and that's something also shared in Viper .

Yeah, was thinking about it the other day, it can easily turn out to be "that" synth, think it's important right sound designers start doing banks, I would love to see Aiyn Zahev and Arksun's take on this, also, one can dream, but Luftrum and Hollo.

[wagtunes]

You guys seriously need to chill. The complaining has turned into full blown nastiness against Wagtunes. Everyone needs to collectively drop it. 64 bit is currently not available and there will be a free update when it's available. There isn't anything more that needs to be said.

I will echo what a previously user said that it can turn out to be like a new Sylenth. The later doesn't have much of the features like it's "successors" like Hive, Spire or even Viper. But it has a great tone and easy to use interface and that's something also shared in Viper .

Thanks, but I'm fine. I don't let these guys bother me anymore.

I do find it puzzling though the use of the word "criticize." I haven't criticized Adam's work at all. I've acknowledged that the synth sounds great but unfortunately I can't use it. That's not a criticism. It's just a simple fact. When and if a 64 bit version comes out, I will definitely purchase it as long as it runs in my DAW without crashing.

Furthermore, in addressing one other thing that was said about my being insignificant, I am well aware of this. In the grand scheme of things in this world, I matter very little and maybe a handful of people will miss me when I'm gone. However, at least I can say that I don't go out of my way to make others feel bad.

Finally, in regard to my insignificance, all things being relative, whatever income I do get from each library is obviously significant enough for my personal needs that I've kept on doing this for 4 years now. Otherwise, I would have quit a long time ago as I did when I saw the royalty free music business was pointless with all the free sites out there. If I'm anything, I'm not stupid. I know when a venture is a lost cause. This business I am in now is not a lost cause as my business has been growing exponentially since it began. I estimate that by the time I reach 100 libraries, I'll have an income equal to that of a minimum wage worker. The difference is, I don't have to get up, drive to work, and toil for a miserable boss all day.

So yes, relative to MY situation, each library I release is quite significant for me. So it would be foolish for me to not purchase this synth. However, I will do so when I'm ready to and not before.

Hopefully, this will end all the animosity directed this way. I have no ill will towards any of the members here and least of all Adam, who I wish nothing but the best with this project. And while it's none of our business what he earns from this synth, I hope at least that he'll pop in and let us know if things are improving for him financially as I'm sure we're all concerned about his welfare.