Help with Waveform 8 and Melodyne 4 Studio

[clintmartin]

I have read through the tips thread and searched google and youtube, but I can't seem to do what I'n trying to do.
I have a bass track (that is a real recorded bass) that I have edited and split into 4 clips. I want to select just one clip...fix it with melodyne, and then render and replace the original.
When I select one clip the entire track is showing in melodyne, and when I render I have two copies. The original and the new.
I'll keep trying.

[AGreen]

Not sure why you're having problems. If you add melodyne to the clip you want to process it will show either the whole track with the clip area highlighted in white or just the clip area depending on whether you've set melodynes note editor to track mode or clip mode. (See "Options" > "Note editor")

To render and replace, select the clip and click "Render clip" then "Flatten clip" in control panel

[clintmartin]

Okay. I'll look into the melodyne prefs and see if I can find clip mode. I'm coming from Sonar where it just works as is. Thanks for the ideas.

[jabe]

Okay. I'll look into the melodyne prefs and see if I can find clip mode. I'm coming from Sonar where it just works as is. Thanks for the ideas.

This will show you how to use Melodyne on an audio clip:

[clintmartin]

I've seen that. Thanks, but that doesn't help me with my issue.

[clintmartin]

Okay. I rendered the bass track to a new track and split the track into clips just like the original and everything is working as expected. I believe there was a section in the original when I used the loop function to duplicate a part. That must be what is causing the problem? When I select one clip it is merging two together.

[jabe]

I've seen that. Thanks, but that doesn't help me with my issue.

Sorry for that - my old exam failing, not reading the question properly!

[clintmartin]

No problem. Thanks for trying to help. I'm still not sure why it won't work the way I was trying...it's all a Waveform education for me.

[lay it prodctions]

To achieve this first you must rename the clip you want to edit in melodyne once you make your slice, to prevent melodyne from editing the whole audio file instead of the sliced clip you select.
Now once you made your slice and renamed your clip. Select the clip select the (view source info) tab in the properties tab. Now select (edit audio file). Now select (set audio editor to use...) Chose melodyne as your audio editor. Now open the (Edit audio file) tab again and select edit using Melodyne. Once you open the audio clip in melodyne close your edit in Waveform that contains the audio clip or you will not be able to over write the file leaving you only the choice to make a copy. Once you finish editing the file and the Waveform edit is close just go to the file tab in melodyne and press save not save file and melodyne will over write the clip. Now open your edit in Waveform and, Whala!

[clintmartin]

It seems like that could be implemented better.
In Sonar you can select a clip, choose Melodyne, do your work, and bounce the clip. Done.
Waveform should know if I select one clip I want to work on that one clip.
I'm still loving Waveform...it's a different work flow, but I like it for the most part.

[AGreen]

To achieve this first you must rename the clip you want to edit in melodyne once you make your slice, to prevent melodyne from editing the whole audio file instead of the sliced clip you select.
Now once you made your slice and renamed your clip. Select the clip select the (view source info) tab in the properties tab. Now select (edit audio file). Now select (set audio editor to use...) Chose melodyne as your audio editor. Now open the (Edit audio file) tab again and select edit using Melodyne. Once you open the audio clip in melodyne close your edit in Waveform that contains the audio clip or you will not be able to over write the file leaving you only the choice to make a copy. Once you finish editing the file and the Waveform edit is close just go to the file tab in melodyne and press save not save file and melodyne will over write the clip. Now open your edit in Waveform and, Whala!

This information isn't correct lay it. When you apply melodyne to a clip it's non-destructive and you can undo or remove melodyne from the clip and the original audio is not affected. When you render or flatten a clip with melodyne on it, a new audio file is created for the render and the original file is untouched. You can check this by looking at the source file information for the clip. Copy a clip on to a new track so that they're side by side and then experiment with melodyne. You'll see that the original clip remains unaffected after applying melodyne and rendering. Your method is terribly convoluted and unnecessary. You must use the vst3 version of melodyne by the way not the standlalone or vst2 version.

[clintmartin]

To achieve this first you must rename the clip you want to edit in melodyne once you make your slice, to prevent melodyne from editing the whole audio file instead of the sliced clip you select.
Now once you made your slice and renamed your clip. Select the clip select the (view source info) tab in the properties tab. Now select (edit audio file). Now select (set audio editor to use...) Chose melodyne as your audio editor. Now open the (Edit audio file) tab again and select edit using Melodyne. Once you open the audio clip in melodyne close your edit in Waveform that contains the audio clip or you will not be able to over write the file leaving you only the choice to make a copy. Once you finish editing the file and the Waveform edit is close just go to the file tab in melodyne and press save not save file and melodyne will over write the clip. Now open your edit in Waveform and, Whala!

This information isn't correct lay it. When you apply melodyne to a clip it's non-destructive and you can undo or remove melodyne from the clip and the original audio is not affected. When you render or flatten a clip with melodyne on it, a new audio file is created for the render and the original file is untouched. You can check this by looking at the source file information for the clip. Copy a clip on to a new track so that they're side by side and then experiment with melodyne. You'll see that the original clip remains unaffected after applying melodyne and rendering. Your method is terribly convoluted and unnecessary. You must use the vst3 version of melodyne by the way not the standlalone or vst2 version.

I believe AGreen is right here. It's not very intuitive but for audio tracks I believe I'm figuring out what Waveform wants me to do.
Is there an older video that explains all of the rendering options? The T5 video perhaps? I can't find a thing under T7 or Waveform?
Also the preferred Melodyne settings for different situations may be helpful.
It's clear that some seasoned users still have some uncertainty...for the good of the growing user base a few videos would be nice.
I'm not complaining. I'm trying to make Tracktion my permanent DAW (after Sonar's demise), and would like to help others with the transition.

[thebrokenrobot]

Hi There! Sorry for leaching onto an old thread. I wonder if you kind folks would assist with a similar issue.

When I use the method in the guide for adding melodyne to a clip (time stretching), melodyne automatically changes the tempo of the clip to the tempo set for the project.

However, the recordings change tempo frequently, so i normally ignore the tempo setting for the edit.

Has anyone else experienced this? Is there a workaround where you can add melodyne, but not have the edit's tempo alter the clip?

Yes, i'm aware that i could spend a while adjusting the tempo timeline, but that seems like way too much work for fixing a few pitch issues.

I'm on the latest version of waveform (9.1.1?), so I don't know if this is a bug or anticipated behavior. Tracktion tech support has basically ignored my emails on the topic, and I've got folks waiting on these recordings.

Let me know, thanks!