KVR Audio

gremlinmoon · Post by **gremlinmoon** » Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:35 pm

Izotope are going to offer a DAW that is integrated with cut-down versions of all of their products, both instruments and audio tools, that can be upgraded or unlocked. They are certainly in the technical and creative position to do so. It will be abandoned after v.2 and then perpetually on sale at various prices in perpetuity.

zenophilix · Post by **zenophilix** » Sat Feb 03, 2018 2:56 am

Spencer Maddox wrote:
tonedef71 wrote:
tooneba wrote:Revival of Sonar
That should prompt another thread: which company should take over and resurrect Sonar in 2018?
Given the Windows Only aspect of Sonar, Microsoft themselves would seem like the ideal Suspect no?
They’ve been trying to appeal to professionals with Windows 10 and they even were scouting for audio programmers here a while back so it wouldn’t be too crazy. They certainly have more than enough money to pull of a purchase.
I don’t know, just speculating.

I'm having a really hard time arguing with this idea. If not Cakewalk, then something else eventually. Only a matter of time before Microsoft releases(read: buys) a DAW and pushes it like crazy. As far as Sonar goes, I'm pretty happy bumming around with Home Studio. Using Live Lite caused me to rely pretty heavily on plugins, so as long as I have those 64 tracks I'm good. Tempted to pick up Reason Essentials as well, unlimited tracks for a "lite" DAW is pretty rad.

Kalamata Kid · Post by **Kalamata Kid** » Sat Feb 03, 2018 5:42 am

My feeling has been that NI Reaktor become a DAW that will be able to host VST's. This is not likely to happen, however Native Instruments if motivated can make a great DAW. Spectrasonics, Melda, Celemony, Izotope, UVI … are good candidates for making great DAW’s

My revised DAW release date predicions
Reaper 6 March 2018
Waveform 9 April 2018
FL Studio 20 May 2018
Mulab 8, June 2018
S1 v4 . August 2018
Mixcraft 9 October 2018
Samplitude Pro X4 November 2018
Cubase December 2018.
These are all great DAW’s. In my book they rate 9 to 9.5 out of 10.

MattmaN · Post by **MattmaN** » Wed Feb 07, 2018 6:28 pm

SparkySpark wrote:
kevinwayne wrote:
original flipper wrote:I would love to see XTV3 jump out of oblivion...
Can't seem to find a DAW with that name?
Most likely Energy XT version 3. It's a modular DAW, so a bit like MuLab but in my mind rather outdated now and Jörgen (the dev) is doping other things nowadays as far as I know. Still, I really liked it very much when it was more current.

I believe the current version is 2.6 or thereabouts.

It has a great Midi Workflow. The lack of being 64bit is of course the most important upgrade it needs.
I'm still using 32bit systems though, and it runs pretty nice on older systems (WinXP even).
EnergyXT probably can be considered a niche product for those with old computers.

SparkySpark · Post by **SparkySpark** » Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:59 pm

Yes, I loved both its modular concept and its MIDI workflow, but you will find those things in MuLab too (and so much more).

Like EnergyXT, MuLab doesn't need installation, which is great for us on a university network.

BTW, Live 10 is now released!

THE INTRANCER · Post by **THE INTRANCER** » Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:08 am

Kalamata Kid wrote: S1 v4 . August 2018

That's being very optimistic, you're looking at May 2019 at least really.

Kalamata Kid · Post by **Kalamata Kid** » Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:25 am

THE INTRANCER wrote:
Kalamata Kid wrote: S1 v4 . August 2018
That's being very optimistic, you're looking at May 2019 at least really.

My glass is half full.

Actually I did not have any 2019 slots available.

Well 36 months from S1 v3
and 14 months from V3.5
So my predicionn is not bad.
I suppose we will see.
Do you realize I have a perfect record?
100%!

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:33 am

zenophilix wrote:
Spencer Maddox wrote:
tonedef71 wrote:
tooneba wrote:Revival of Sonar
That should prompt another thread: which company should take over and resurrect Sonar in 2018?
Given the Windows Only aspect of Sonar, Microsoft themselves would seem like the ideal Suspect no?
They’ve been trying to appeal to professionals with Windows 10 and they even were scouting for audio programmers here a while back so it wouldn’t be too crazy. They certainly have more than enough money to pull of a purchase.
I don’t know, just speculating.
I'm having a really hard time arguing with this idea. If not Cakewalk, then something else eventually. Only a matter of time before Microsoft releases(read: buys) a DAW and pushes it like crazy. As far as Sonar goes, I'm pretty happy bumming around with Home Studio. Using Live Lite caused me to rely pretty heavily on plugins, so as long as I have those 64 tracks I'm good. Tempted to pick up Reason Essentials as well, unlimited tracks for a "lite" DAW is pretty rad.

I wouldn't mind Microsoft taking over Sonar at all. The thing i'd be worried about though is whether they pump enough money into development. Cakewalk development was very slow in the last 8 years or so. They should also put some new stuff out then. Z3TA 3 with a reworked sound engine (one can dream, right?

).

It's really questionable if they would really do something like that though. Microsoft battles on several frontlines at the moment, and i really can't imagine that audio software would be high on their agenda. Apple knows that a reasonable amount of their customers are into arts, and also into music productions. On Windows, picture or video editing will be a much bigger thing than audio production.

Steve Bolivar · Post by **Steve Bolivar** » Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:05 am

I don't think it's out of the question for Microsoft to pick up some of the ex Cakewalk coders and maybe even buy Sonar outright from Gibson but only to use it to make a new Microsoft DAW. Others have posted that the Sonar code was many layers too deep and in need of a fresh rewrite. By now it seems many Sonar users have already moved on and bought new DAWs and don't want to revisit that sadness. Maybe best from a marketing perspective to keep the best of Sonar, fix/rework/update the rest and release it under a new name.

Either that or Microsoft just releases the MS Paint of DAWs.

zenophilix · Post by **zenophilix** » Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:08 am

chk071 wrote:
zenophilix wrote:
Spencer Maddox wrote:
tonedef71 wrote:
tooneba wrote:Revival of Sonar
That should prompt another thread: which company should take over and resurrect Sonar in 2018?
Given the Windows Only aspect of Sonar, Microsoft themselves would seem like the ideal Suspect no?
They’ve been trying to appeal to professionals with Windows 10 and they even were scouting for audio programmers here a while back so it wouldn’t be too crazy. They certainly have more than enough money to pull of a purchase.
I don’t know, just speculating.
I'm having a really hard time arguing with this idea. If not Cakewalk, then something else eventually. Only a matter of time before Microsoft releases(read: buys) a DAW and pushes it like crazy. As far as Sonar goes, I'm pretty happy bumming around with Home Studio. Using Live Lite caused me to rely pretty heavily on plugins, so as long as I have those 64 tracks I'm good. Tempted to pick up Reason Essentials as well, unlimited tracks for a "lite" DAW is pretty rad.
I wouldn't mind Microsoft taking over Sonar at all. The thing i'd be worried about though is whether they pump enough money into development. Cakewalk development was very slow in the last 8 years or so. They should also put some new stuff out then. Z3TA 3 with a reworked sound engine (one can dream, right? ).

It's really questionable if they would really do something like that though. Microsoft battles on several frontlines at the moment, and i really can't imagine that audio software would be high on their agenda. Apple knows that a reasonable amount of their customers are into arts, and also into music productions. On Windows, picture or video editing will be a much bigger thing than audio production.

Fair enough. I wasn't really taking sides yet, but now I don't think it would bother me that much. I mean hey, it's not like it can be worse than Cakewalk not existing at all anyway.

Honestly though, I'd be interested to see if MIcrosoft acquired a DAW, Sonar or not. Some of the recent software/hardware has been pretty interesting, so it'd be neat to see a DAW that follows some of the same design philosophies. Call it Windows Audio Studio or something else super posh.

metamorphosis · Post by **metamorphosis** » Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:13 am

tonedef71 wrote:
kevinwayne wrote:Anyone heard anything about a free offer for Waveform? Or is that a train that passed with the advent of T7?
Right now there is a public beta going on for Waveform 9; valid until the end of January. When Waveform 9 is released for sale, it is possible that T7 will become free to own and download (that's been the trend with the folks from Tracktion anyway: make free the version of the DAW that is two major versions behind the latest major version).

That'd be good, because t6 is buggy as hell.

Kalamata Kid · Post by **Kalamata Kid** » Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:43 am

Spectra DAW by Spectrasonics!
They are the premier audio/midi developer, in my opinion.

zenophilix · Post by **zenophilix** » Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:45 am

Kalamata Kid wrote:Spectra DAW by Spectrasonics!
They are the premier audio/midi developer, in my opinion.

Please. Oh please please please.

SparkySpark · Post by **SparkySpark** » Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:30 pm

zenophilix wrote:
Kalamata Kid wrote:Spectra DAW by Spectrasonics!
They are the premier audio/midi developer, in my opinion.
Please. Oh please please please.

Not a bad idea at all!

perox · Post by **perox** » Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:59 pm

Bitwig as creative and live DAW + Cubase as finalizing and mastering DAW ...

Predictions for 2018 DAW Market