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jens · Post by **jens** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 2:48 pm

wagtunes wrote: I don't know of any other amp sim that allows you to do that at this deep a level, swapping tubes and circuitry. But if there is one that's really solid and well liked, let me know and I'll look into it.

Revalver has been doing that for more than a decade....

https://peavey.com/products/revalver/

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 2:56 pm

jens wrote:
wagtunes wrote: I don't know of any other amp sim that allows you to do that at this deep a level, swapping tubes and circuitry. But if there is one that's really solid and well liked, let me know and I'll look into it.
Revalver has been doing that for more than a decade....

https://peavey.com/products/revalver/

Yep. Sounds great and only 99 bucks.

I'm dying to know what the community in general thinks of this one.

dandezebra · Post by **dandezebra** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 3:02 pm

I use Revalver and it does sound pretty good. I often use the amps in it in addition to TSE and Kazrog with some random IRs.

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 3:14 pm

dandezebra wrote:I use Revalver and it does sound pretty good. I often use the amps in it in addition to TSE and Kazrog with some random IRs.

So you can really create your own Frankenstein Monster amp with this thing.

generaldiomedes · Post by **generaldiomedes** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 3:32 pm

AFAIK There is nothing out there currently like the ‘reaktor of tube amp simulations’. Revalver (which has great peavy amp sims), bias and axe all give you tweakable options (axe being the deepest) but you couldn’t do something like make a new type of tube or change the fundamental behaviour of the amp. More like a blocks ensemble.

It’s far easier to find a sim of a Frankenstein amp that someone has already programmed.

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 3:36 pm

generaldiomedes wrote:AFAIK There is nothing out there currently like the ‘reaktor of tube amp simulations’. Revalver (which has great peavy amp sims), bias and axe all give you tweakable options (axe being the deepest) but you couldn’t do something like make a new type of tube or change the fundamental behaviour of the amp. More like a blocks ensemble.

It’s far easier to find a sim of a Frankenstein amp that someone has already programmed.

From what I can tell, Axe is only hardware as of now.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 4:24 pm

Yeah, and chances of it going into plugin form are extremely low.

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 5:01 pm

EvilDragon wrote:Yeah, and chances of it going into plugin form are extremely low.

I trust your opinion a lot. What do you think is the most "versatile" and best sounding amp sim out there in VST form?

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 5:04 pm

I'm pretty much using Kazrog these days. Feels great playing through them, Shane nailed the pick attack response and dynamics. You can't build your own amp using his plugins, but you don't need to.

Also Mercuriall is pretty great, but their price-per-amp ratio is atrocious...

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 5:07 pm

EvilDragon wrote:I'm pretty much using Kazrog these days. Feels great playing through them, Shane nailed the pick attack response and dynamics. You can't build your own amp using his plugins, but you don't need to.

Also Mercuriall is pretty great, but their price-per-amp ratio is atrocious...

Thanks. Yeah, I'm pretty much looking for something where I can create just about any amp I can think of, within reason. Doesn't need to be Reaktor level but something like Bias Amp 2 but just better made.

generaldiomedes · Post by **generaldiomedes** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 5:09 pm

Are you looking to sell amp models?

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 5:10 pm

Can't really go wrong with Revalver then. It's the only thing that's comparable that I know of. Plus it doesn't have a shit-coded GUI.

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 5:16 pm

generaldiomedes wrote:Are you looking to sell amp models?

No, not at all. It's just that I like getting as many different guitar tones as I can out of an amp sim. I have found both Guitar Rig 5 and Amplitube 4, which are the only ones that I own, to be limited. Eventually, you've really heard it all. So I guess I'm looking for a modular based amp sim or something as close to it as possible.

Joe Kuo · Post by **Joe Kuo** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 5:21 pm

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Thanks for the interest and comments on BIAS AMP 2. This is Joe, support lead from Positive Grid.

We know there were things we didn't do very well. Moving forward, for any comment or feedback feel free to write us at support@positivegrid.zendesk.com (mailto:support@positivegrid.zendesk.com) I'll also visit KVR frequently to answer questions.

Oh, and we have a brand new forum here. https://forum.positivegrid.com/ (https://forum.positivegrid.com/)

generaldiomedes · Post by **generaldiomedes** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 5:23 pm

Well .. the modular part of guitar sounds is matching pickups, pre/post effects, amp sims, cab sims and IRs in your chain.

Maybe you are more after using something like MUX modular and various VSTs. There are a ton of freeware VST pedals and amp/cab sims, not to mention excellent IRs to last you months of not years of tinkering.

Revalver also lets you insert your own VST effects and has a parallel amp chain built in .. also a nice option.

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