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Riansky · Post by **Riansky** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:40 pm

garryknight wrote:
Riansky wrote:Don't tell me you wans't a bit dissapointed that they only announced 3.5.5 update and not 3.6 or something.
Some of these were show-stoppers for some users.

While this and everything you said is true, I was still dissapointed because there are still some foundimental features missing and also maybe because Apple and Avid announced pretty good updates to be honest. But well, that's me only. Still mad props to Presonus!

kevvvvv · Post by **kevvvvv** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:53 pm

Riansky

there still a lot of features missing that should be there

Where there any specific features you had in mind?

I'd be interested to know.

Riansky · Post by **Riansky** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:03 pm

kevvvvv wrote:Riansky

there still a lot of features missing that should be there
Where there any specific features you had in mind?

I'd be interested to know.

Yeah, MIDI improvements (Take Cubase as example), Proper sampler ( I'm not paying 80€ for presence editor that should be open to everyone), More detailed waveforms (Not really a feature but you get the point), Retrospective MIDI ( Pro Tools just got it, Ableton 10 will when its released) Full screen (I mean, come one). That's just from the top of my head.
Yeah I know I could go and use another daw proably, but in terms of workflow I still think S1 beats everything.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:13 pm

Riansky wrote:
kevvvvv wrote:Riansky

there still a lot of features missing that should be there
Where there any specific features you had in mind?

I'd be interested to know.
Yeah, MIDI improvements (Take Cubase as example), Proper sampler ( I'm not paying 80€ for presence editor that should be open to everyone), More detailed waveforms (Not really a feature but you get the point), Retrospective MIDI ( Pro Tools just got it, Ableton 10 will when its released) Full screen (I mean, come one). That's just from the top of my head.
Yeah I know I could go and use another daw proably, but in terms of workflow I still think S1 beats everything.

Holy shmoly. Would you be willing to pay the dozen of additional developers they'd need for that?

I actually don't think the Studio One devs are more than a dozen, are they?

Riansky · Post by **Riansky** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:32 pm

chk071 wrote: Holy shmoly. Would you be willing to pay the dozen of additional developers they'd need for that?

I actually don't think the Studio One devs are more than a dozen, are they?

Obviously, I have all the cashes in teh worldz

Well I dunno about devs, but I think there is plenty ? Probably something in the same range as than Cubase/Live etc imo.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:36 pm

I don't know if there are more than the ones listed here, but: http://www.presonussoftware.com/en_US/i ... mpany-team

Andreas71 · Post by **Andreas71** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:34 pm

If you compare S1 developement vs Reaper or Logic one must wonder what the hell those devs are doing. Drinking coffee maybe? I love S1 workflow but I don't trust the company anymore.

From Dec 04 2017 to today this is what they come up to:

Version 3.5.4 Release Notes (Dezember 04, 2017):

Improvements:

• Real Time Bounce Broken for Instrument Tracks

Version 3.5.5 Release Notes (January 30, 2018):

New features and improvements:

• Cakewalk SONAR keyboard shortcut template

The following issues have been fixed:

• Notes events disappearing when clicking on the Arranger Track
• Snap to grid in Scratchpad not working
• AU Plugin crash
• Crash when switching from song to start page
• [Project Page] Offline TP not exact
• Italian localization issues
• Crash after Drag and Drop with plugins
• Crash in Melodyne after "Restore"

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:49 pm

Funny that you think bugfix updates are the only things the devs are working on.

I guess, before they release version 4 of Studio One, they just snip with the finger, and it's magically all coded, ready for release then. Of course, they are already working on that as well.

You may also present me the last update of Reaper, where as many things were changed as on the Studio One 3.5 update (and i don't mean the gazillion of tiny changes they do on most updates, which you most probably won't even notice). I think you'll have to get back as far as the version 4 Reaper update for that though. If Studio One development is slow (yes, it's slower than Cubase), then Reaper is developing in snail speed.

beatmangler443 · Post by **beatmangler443** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:54 pm

Andreas71 wrote:If you compare S1 developement vs Reaper or Logic one must wonder what the hell those devs are doing. Drinking coffee maybe? I love S1 workflow but I don't trust the company anymore.

From Dec 04 2017 to today this is what they come up to:

Version 3.5.4 Release Notes (Dezember 04, 2017):

Improvements:

• Real Time Bounce Broken for Instrument Tracks

Version 3.5.5 Release Notes (January 30, 2018):

New features and improvements:

• Cakewalk SONAR keyboard shortcut template

The following issues have been fixed:

• Notes events disappearing when clicking on the Arranger Track
• Snap to grid in Scratchpad not working
• AU Plugin crash
• Crash when switching from song to start page
• [Project Page] Offline TP not exact
• Italian localization issues
• Crash after Drag and Drop with plugins
• Crash in Melodyne after "Restore"

Then stop using Studio One then.

woodsdenis · Post by **woodsdenis** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:55 pm

No fan of Studio One or their forum, but at least they are fixing things !

Andreas71 · Post by **Andreas71** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:56 pm

chk071 wrote: You may also present me the last update of Reaper, where as many things were changed as on the Studio One 3.5 update (and i don't mean the gazillion of tiny changes they do on most updates, which you most probably won't even notice). I think you'll have to get back as far as the version 4 Reaper update for that though. If Studio One development is slow (yes, it's slower than Cubase), then Reaper is developing in snail speed.

I didn't notice S1 updates also but here you are.
https://forum.cockos.com/forumdisplay.php?f=37

Andreas71 · Post by **Andreas71** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:01 pm

beatmangler443 wrote:
Andreas71 wrote:If you compare S1 developement vs Reaper or Logic one must wonder what the hell those devs are doing. Drinking coffee maybe? I love S1 workflow but I don't trust the company anymore.

From Dec 04 2017 to today this is what they come up to:

Version 3.5.4 Release Notes (Dezember 04, 2017):

Improvements:

• Real Time Bounce Broken for Instrument Tracks

Version 3.5.5 Release Notes (January 30, 2018):

New features and improvements:

• Cakewalk SONAR keyboard shortcut template

The following issues have been fixed:

• Notes events disappearing when clicking on the Arranger Track
• Snap to grid in Scratchpad not working
• AU Plugin crash
• Crash when switching from song to start page
• [Project Page] Offline TP not exact
• Italian localization issues
• Crash after Drag and Drop with plugins
• Crash in Melodyne after "Restore"
Then stop using Studio One then.

I don't have to stop using software but I'm really considering to not buy the next release (I've been using S1 from v1).

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:15 pm

What would you expect them to implement in version 4, so you would be motivated to buy it?

For me, i think the main issue ATM is the GUI. It's not bad, mind you, but, i really think it could be better. When i take a look at the GUI in v2, i even see advantages in that, because it simply seemed more clear, and manageable for me. Actually, i'm pretty positive they know that though, and, even though i don't expect a complete overhaul, i'm quite confident that they will fine tune it. Further, i'd like them to get rid of the different types of MIDI surfaces, and let you set up one MIDI surface, which can be - instrument, keyboard, or anything else, with support for MIDI clock etc. Also, i'd like an update for Impact, to be able to load layers of samples e.g. Apart from that, i'm pretty happy with S1 as it is.

beatmangler443 · Post by **beatmangler443** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:20 pm

Hello folks. They are working on putting the next version of melodyne into studio one currently.

Andreas71 · Post by **Andreas71** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:45 pm

chk071 wrote:What would you expect them to implement in version 4, so you would be motivated to buy it?

For me, i think the main issue ATM is the GUI. It's not bad, mind you, but, i really think it could be better. When i take a look at the GUI in v2, i even see advantages in that, because it simply seemed more clear, and manageable for me. Actually, i'm pretty positive they know that though, and, even though i don't expect a complete overhaul, i'm quite confident that they will fine tune it. Further, i'd like them to get rid of the different types of MIDI surfaces, and let you set up one MIDI surface, which can be - instrument, keyboard, or anything else, with support for MIDI clock etc. Also, i'd like an update for Impact, to be able to load layers of samples e.g. Apart from that, i'm pretty happy with S1 as it is.

I'm quite pleased with the GUI. Maybe there could be more contrast between different elements and track icons maybe but those things are minor to me. I'm very comfortable with GUI. What bothers me is slow development. Don't get me wrong. I really like to work with S1 but there is many issues that needs to be fixed. CPU usage is still an issue especially with VST instruments. And what comes features S1 can't rival Cubase and Logic. I'm on Mac and my main daw is still Logic but I hope that someday I can switch to S1. There is much to love in S1 and nowdays Apple HW is too expensive and crippled that I would like to get rid of Apple HW.

Competition is hard in daw realm and I really hope that S1 can keep up in development.

Studio One 3.5.5 Update Released - 30 Jan 2018