What the hell! MIDI export

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My drummer uses Sonar so I exported my demo drum track and loaded it in Sonar and the tempo was wrong and the notes were not where they were supposed to be. Checked back on the project page in T and the tempo was to slow but everything else was O.K. I know I could export it as an audio file but I just wonder what the hell went wrong :?: Not complaining, just mystified since this is the first time I've tried to export MIDI. Anyone got a clue? Thanks :)
Robert T

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I think Sonar has a wierd thing with midi importing and tempo (or was midi exporting and tempo?). In regards to the other thing I'd look at as see if the notes are 2 octaves lower or higher than they are supposed to be (a quick transpose by plus or minus 24 will help you out).
I'm sorry this post wasn't about techno.

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Thanks for the reply :)

I checked the exported file in T(on the project page) and the tempo was to slow there so that indicates that it's a T thing. Maybe it doesn't export the BPM. I don't know :? Seems like it would but.................

I'll check the octave thing but what I was seeing in sonar's piano roll was notes not on time and random.

Strange :shrug:

Thanks man
Robert T

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Does anyone know if T exports BPM with the MIDI file :?:

Thanks
Robert T

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I don't think it does, the midi export was seriously flaky a long time ago, but I was sure it was fixed. I think tracktion just exports most midi at 120bpm...

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Thanks Gurgle, that's what I was thinking must be the problem. So I guess when I import it into another sequencer it tells the MIDI what tempo to play...... Does that sound right?
Robert T

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I've worked as a GM/GS-file programmer (for those weddingsingers, one-man-bands etc.) with CW8 till S3.1.1 and I never experienced problems with tempo-changes or note-events. I've had problems with something else though.

The GM/GS-standard has some very strict rules on about how you place your controller (and prog.change)-events, and here I mean constant problems. CW/Sonar have an "automatic" GM/GS-export function that will store things in their rights places. According to the manual, Sonar uses this everytime it exports SMF's and there's a GM or GS reset found in the file. I never got it to work, with or without GM/GS-reset. Cubase exports "as is".
Rolf '3mph' Hansen

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Interesting info, Rolf. I was actually wondering about exporting from Tracktion and importing into Sonar. It seems that Sonar scrambled the notes because they were right in Tracktion. :? Hmmmm.................
Robert T

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