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Elektronisch · Post by **Elektronisch** » Thu Mar 15, 2018 3:45 pm

No not a controller, but Pro-One synth, but i bet you will be able to use it as controller

https://www.musicradar.com/news/behring ... ynth-clone

VariKusBrainZ · Post by **VariKusBrainZ** » Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:04 pm

How if it isnt designed to send midi out from every control ?

It most probably wont as that would significantly increase the price.

It only appears to accept midi in which Ill bet my life will only be for note on/off, pitch bend and mod wheel

Elektronisch · Post by **Elektronisch** » Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:29 pm

VariKusBrainZ wrote:How if it isnt designed to send midi out from every control ?

It most probably wont as that would significantly increase the price.

It only appears to accept midi in which Ill bet my life will only be for note on/off, pitch bend and mod wheel

Why do you asume it will be designed like that? there is no info about that...

SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:29 pm

It’s betting to the point where a real analog synth will be cheaper than a VST VA with dedicated midi controller....

bmrzycki · Post by **bmrzycki** » Thu Mar 15, 2018 10:21 pm

Elektronisch wrote:
VariKusBrainZ wrote:How if it isnt designed to send midi out from every control ?

It most probably wont as that would significantly increase the price.

It only appears to accept midi in which Ill bet my life will only be for note on/off, pitch bend and mod wheel
Why do you asume it will be designed like that? there is no info about that...

There looks to only be MIDI in, not out, from the other picture on MusicRadar:

And this image from Behringer's Facebook page (via SonicState) of the underlying board strongly indicates no connectors on the back face:

I'd be very surprised if this device sent MIDI of any kind.

VariKusBrainZ · Post by **VariKusBrainZ** » Thu Mar 15, 2018 10:58 pm

Elektronisch wrote:
VariKusBrainZ wrote:How if it isnt designed to send midi out from every control ?

It most probably wont as that would significantly increase the price.

It only appears to accept midi in which Ill bet my life will only be for note on/off, pitch bend and mod wheel
Why do you asume it will be designed like that? there is no info about that...

Because its an extremely reasonable assumption based on what info they have released, what products they have released and my personal music tech knowledge.

If it has any midi out at all, let alone full parameter control via midi in or out Ill eat my own turd

sqigls · Post by **sqigls** » Fri Mar 16, 2018 2:47 am

VariKusBrainZ wrote:... Ill eat my own turd

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akira2 · Post by **akira2** » Sun Mar 18, 2018 2:57 pm

The picture is a prototype.

The final product will probably be like the model d they just released.

The model d is usb and can send midi to computer so it can be a controller (a nice mini v/ legend/ diva controller)...

Now the question is.... will software compagnies decrease their prices ? I mean for stuff like Repro, Diva, Legend, Arturia v...

Because at this price, I prefer to get a Model D than the Legend for example .

Behringer is really changing the rules !

Funkybot's Evil Twin · Sun Mar 18, 2018 3:39 pm

akira2 wrote:Now the question is.... will software compagnies decrease their prices ? I mean for stuff like Repro, Diva, Legend, Arturia v...

Because at this price, I prefer to get a Model D than the Legend for example .

Even with the low-priced analog hardware starting to crop up, the workflow is still wildly different between software and hardware. Each approach has entirely separate pros and cons even when the sound quality is otherwise on par between the two. I wouldn't expect a radical change in software prices because of less-expensive hardware. It took U-he two years to put RePro-1/5 and there's a staff support, rent to pay, etc. That's very costly. One-man shops may be able to charge less, but it's going to be different for each company (which is exactly where we currently are). If anything will change the cost paradigm of software, it's going to be mobile. Young kids are going to come up on $5 apps and tablets and may not ever see the need for desktops, or expensive hardware, DAW's, and plugins.

Funkybot's Evil Twin · Sun Mar 18, 2018 3:44 pm

Duplicate.

akira2 · Post by **akira2** » Sun Mar 18, 2018 4:21 pm

Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: I wouldn't expect a radical change in software prices because of less-expensive hardware. It took U-he two years to put RePro-1/5 and there's a staff support, rent to pay, etc. That's very costly. One-man shops may be able to charge less, but it's going to be different for each company (which is exactly where we currently are).

not radical but a little bit
Well I think it's the same for Behringer...this is probably 2 years of work or more to release a clone..Besides, they have to work on the hardware...so it's even more work and money investment...

until now, most of users used vst synth mostlty because of the price (and they always are in search of controllers for their vst synths). Now with lower hardware price, it can change everything, and I hope !

At the end, it will depend of the people choice, nobody can say....if they mostly go for hardware clones, softwares compagnies will be obliged to drop the price of their analog emulation stuff (of course not things like hive, sylenth, zebra...........................for the moment lol)

Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: If anything will change the cost paradigm of software, it's going to be mobile. Young kids are going to come up on $5 apps and tablets and may not ever see the need for desktops, or expensive hardware, DAW's, and plugins.

Not sure about that....when I see on youtube hundreds of teenagers jaming with huge hardware collection.... I think they prefer hardware too at the end... of course those who have the money

but now with hardware prices, it's possible ! and that's great

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:01 am

Still no Behringer Minimoog clones shipping anyware. Still on pre-order a year after the announcement.

Not sure if we'll ever see Pro-Ones, OB-Xas or the likes.

AnX · Post by **AnX** » Mon Mar 19, 2018 10:49 am

8ve seen quite a few ppl getting them on yt and instagram, so some are out there.

akira2 · Post by **akira2** » Mon Mar 19, 2018 1:07 pm

Urs wrote:Still no Behringer Minimoog clones shipping anyware. Still on pre-order a year after the announcement.

Not sure if we'll ever see Pro-Ones, OB-Xas or the likes.

There are people who already have the model d from Behringer !!
Check youtube or the 10 customers reviews on musicstore
https://www.musicstore.de/de_DE/EUR/Beh ... 006136-000
and back in stock in April

Scotty · Post by **Scotty** » Mon Mar 19, 2018 1:36 pm

The model D does not send controller information through USB from the knobs. It is a modern take on the classic with no preset control and very limited midi protocols . This is not a criticism rather it is an observation and I would expect the Pro One to have the same design ethos as far as control is concerned.

akira2 wrote:
The model d is usb and can send midi to computer so it can be a controller (a nice mini v/ legend/ diva controller)...

u-he

KVR Audio

Looks like Behringer is making RePro Controller