Would like to discuss duplicating in Waveform...

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I would like to know, if I got the wrong idea in mind repsectfully, if I miss something...

The reason for asking, is that there are 2 implementations on the market:

There is (for me) the right way: Duplicating is smart enough to understand, what I want to do...
Found i.e. in Cubase and Studio One...

The way duplicating works there, is that duplicating is "listening" what I do...
- if a clip starts on a bar, the duplicated copy will be placed on the next empty bar as well (even if the clip is shorter...)
- if I put i.e. a kick on every beat, select them and duplicate them, the duplicated copies start as well on the next empty beat, or even better, if I have only 3 kicks (one on beat 1, one on beat 2 and one on beat 3, leaving beat 4 empty) in one bar and I duplicate them, they are smart enough to assume, that I want to follow the same pattern and start the duplicating on the next bar and not on the empty beat 4...

- same for midi notes... One 16th on every beat are duplicated to the next empty Bar/beat and not to the next empty 16th of the last populated beat...

I think, you get the idea... this is, how music is made to about 80-90%... it´s mostly a repeating pattern and these programms are smart enough to follow this idea...

All other DAW´s having a duplicating feature, realize this action completely blind... meaning no matter how the previous pattern was, duplicating happens on the next empty subdivision next to the last event...

Am I wrong by finding the first option far better???

Some DAW´s like Ableton, Bitwig and FL Studio have at least a neat work around with selecting a range of time to duplicate... this at least allows the user to keep his pattern intact, without having to move the duplicated events manually to the right position...

I use duplicating far far more than looping (this way I don´t have the need to continously having to split the clip afterwards to make changes/variations etc...).... that´s why I am very interested in this topic...

I would like to hear your opinions ... especially devs are very welcome... :D

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I haven't gotten deep in to producing yet in Waveform, but would like to throw out my thoughts on this matter, based solely on the info provided in the first post.

I think this could be a configurable option. Set duplicate to insert the new clip right after the current clip .. or the next bar (or whatever logical beat/time division that makes sense). If this is unreasonable or undesirable for some reason, then I would vote to duplicate a selected time range instead of a clip .. for the very reasons that you described. That way, you can duplicate your 3-kick clip and not end up with the next clip on the 4th beat.

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Naenyn wrote:... If this is unreasonable or undesirable for some reason, then I would vote to duplicate a selected time range instead of a clip .. for the very reasons that you described. That way, you can duplicate your 3-kick clip and not end up with the next clip on the 4th beat.
Thanks for the response and I think, this would be my prefered method as well...
I guess, this way you get the best of all worlds...

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Seems, I am quite alone with my love for duplicating things... :(

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