Viper｜1.2.2 update with bugfixes and new skin

[Ingonator]

Except for the hosts which don't even have a 32-bit version anymore (Cubase, Reason, Logic, more to follow for sure).

My main hosts are Live 10 and Cubase Pro 9.5 which both are 64-bit only. Still i could use 32-bit plugins in them with jBridge if needed.

[wagtunes]

Except for the hosts which don't even have a 32-bit version anymore (Cubase, Reason, Logic, more to follow for sure).

My main hosts are Live 10 and Cubase Pro 9.5 which both are 64-bit only. Still i could use 32-bit plugins in them with jBridge if needed.

I love the way people think JBridge is a 100% always works solution. Please tell that to the 32 bit plugs that I had to get rid of because even with JBridge they froze up my DAW. Hell, some of them wouldn't even load let alone work.

Most worthless investment I ever made since going to PC recording.

[recursive one]

According to Adam, 64 bit is in progress and will be released any time soon

For the time being, 64 bit Studio One + Jbridge + Viper mostly works fine here. I've already made and released a complete track with lots of Viper sounds in it.

[AnX]

64 bit is more important than Oxygen from the Amazon. You can’t launch 32 bit plugins in this day and age.

Sure you can. I use 32bit plugins everyday.

Yeah, true. 5 to 10 years from now, unless you've got spare parts laying around, good luck finding a brand new machine that's 32 bit. So pray your 32 bit machine lasts longer than you do because once that's gone, good luck running your 32 bit plugs "smoothly" without bridging, which is never a 100% perfect solution, which I found out the hard way. Almost none of my 32 bit plugs work without some kind of glitch, even with JBridge.

You can run 32 bit hosts on a 64 bit OS. Works fine on Win7 and 10. No bridge needed.

That's assuming that in 10 years they're still making 32 bit hosts. If not, which is a distinct possibility, have fun running Cubase 7 when the rest of the world is on Cubase 15.

Sure, using that same argument, you can still run Windows 95 apps.

On the plus side, you won't have to worry about depending on any support from anyone because they won't be supporting 20 year old apps and OS.

My OS (Win7) hasnt been updated for 7 years, my host for 3 years. No probs here with 32 or 64 bits.

A pc can easily run for 10 years without changing much, and no, never had a hardware problem.

I dont really care what version other ppl use. Doesnt affect my music.

[Synthman2000]

I think many Cubase 9 users have been enjoying hitherto unknown levels of stability since 32 bit was culled. This will make them very reticent to bridge. Unless it is essential many will not rock the cart of a happy DAW hardware/software combination.

[chk071]

Except for the hosts which don't even have a 32-bit version anymore (Cubase, Reason, Logic, more to follow for sure).

My main hosts are Live 10 and Cubase Pro 9.5 which both are 64-bit only. S

Alright, then it's even 4 of the major DAW's now. Dunno about Pro Tools, which might be 64-bit only now as well.

[wagtunes]

64 bit is more important than Oxygen from the Amazon. You can’t launch 32 bit plugins in this day and age.

Sure you can. I use 32bit plugins everyday.

Yeah, true. 5 to 10 years from now, unless you've got spare parts laying around, good luck finding a brand new machine that's 32 bit. So pray your 32 bit machine lasts longer than you do because once that's gone, good luck running your 32 bit plugs "smoothly" without bridging, which is never a 100% perfect solution, which I found out the hard way. Almost none of my 32 bit plugs work without some kind of glitch, even with JBridge.

You can run 32 bit hosts on a 64 bit OS. Works fine on Win7 and 10. No bridge needed.

That's assuming that in 10 years they're still making 32 bit hosts. If not, which is a distinct possibility, have fun running Cubase 7 when the rest of the world is on Cubase 15.

Sure, using that same argument, you can still run Windows 95 apps.

On the plus side, you won't have to worry about depending on any support from anyone because they won't be supporting 20 year old apps and OS.

My OS (Win7) hasnt been updated for 7 years, my host for 3 years. No probs here with 32 or 64 bits.

A pc can easily run for 10 years without changing much, and no, never had a hardware problem.

I dont really care what version other ppl use. Doesnt affect my music.

Hey great man. But the day will come. You can mark my words on that. 32 bit will not be able to "realistically" serve you forever unless you start stocking up on parts now.

[AnX]

Hey great man. But the day will come. You can mark my words on that. 32 bit will not be able to "realistically" serve you forever unless you start stocking up on parts now.

You're missing the point. My host comes in 32/64 versions, both run in a 64bit OS. I dont need spare parts.


I dont use 32bit, ive been 64bit only for 4 years or so (for work anyway). My point is, i could easily keep using any of my pc's for another 10 years without needing to update anything. I dont really need to update if i stay 64bit, as i have everything i need and its rock solid, but i'll prob buy a laptop this/next year for portability.

[AnX]

dp

[wagtunes]

Hey great man. But the day will come. You can mark my words on that. 32 bit will not be able to "realistically" serve you forever unless you start stocking up on parts now.

You're missing the point. My host comes in 32/64 versions, both run in a 64bit OS. I dont need spare parts.


I dont use 32bit, ive been 64bit only for 4 years or so (for work anyway). My point is, i could easily keep using any of my pc's for another 10 years without needing to update anything. I dont really need to update if i stay 64bit, as i have everything i need and its rock solid, but i'll prob buy a laptop this/next year for portability.

So then you're basically in the same boat that I'm in if I decided to use MuLab, which has a 64 and 32 bit host. The problem is this. If I want to use any of my 32 bit VSTs, I can. But then I can't use any of my 64 bit only VSTs in the same project. That means I can't do an orchestral based atmopsheric piece with sprinkles of HG Fortunes stuff to add that ambiance to it. They're not compatible within the same application. So it's one or the other.

Not exactly an idea solution, which is why I don't bother with MuLab.

[adamszabo]

Guy s please stop arguing about 64 bit, in a few weeks it will be meaningless to Viper

[AnX]

Render....

[wagtunes]

Render....

PITA

[recursive one]

Guy s please stop arguing about 64 bit

I guess they are doing it just for the sake of it. That's KVR for you

[Jorgeelalto]

Hey great man. But the day will come. You can mark my words on that. 32 bit will not be able to "realistically" serve you forever unless you start stocking up on parts now.

You're missing the point. My host comes in 32/64 versions, both run in a 64bit OS. I dont need spare parts.


I dont use 32bit, ive been 64bit only for 4 years or so (for work anyway). My point is, i could easily keep using any of my pc's for another 10 years without needing to update anything. I dont really need to update if i stay 64bit, as i have everything i need and its rock solid, but i'll prob buy a laptop this/next year for portability.

So then you're basically in the same boat that I'm in if I decided to use MuLab, which has a 64 and 32 bit host. The problem is this. If I want to use any of my 32 bit VSTs, I can. But then I can't use any of my 64 bit only VSTs in the same project. That means I can't do an orchestral based atmopsheric piece with sprinkles of HG Fortunes stuff to add that ambiance to it. They're not compatible within the same application. So it's one or the other.

Not exactly an idea solution, which is why I don't bother with MuLab.

The perfect solution is to use hosts with "sandboxing" and bridging, like Reaper, Bitwig... Which create another process that communicates with the DAW each time you load a 32bit plugin in a 64 DAW or vice versa. The sandbox executable can be either 32 or 64 bits and it does not matter, as long as it correctly communicates with the main DAW executable.