Melda Production vs Sound Radix quality?

[akeia]

Melda plugins since v11 have a clean layout and are fully skinnable.

They also allow to build a custom GUI for most effects where the user can arrange his preferred parameters in a GUI separated from the edit mode.

All products have the same base layout, GUI and logic for level meters, parameters, modulators, ...

You need to understand the GUI logic only one time and get all their plugins.

This results in a much better user experience than other products. It saves time and has a professional touch because professionals like to get things done fast.

This is my personal opinion of course but I get the impression a lot of people bashing Melda simply have never used or understood these products.

[onerob]

I'm out.

I'm in.

I think Melda stuff is great and once you get a bundle, you're in for life. I'm looking forward to the spectral delay plugin which will cost me €0.

They have their interface conventions, other companies have theirs. That's fine by me.

[Gamma-UT]

(yea, I know... one can't possibly know everything about anything out there but for this kind of processing - I believe people would have stumbled upon your flux solution, if it was REALLY bugging them).

Flux did a pretty terrible job of selling it, including giving the mode a terrible name originally: "hysteresis". They changed in v3 to Level Independent Detection - it's basically a slew-rate detector, which is pretty much the standard way of processing transients without using a set threshold.

SoundRadix may have implemented an alternative way of doing it but, realistically, when doing something like this you can only either detect absolute changes, rate of change or acceleration (rate of change of rate of change), and play around with RMS integration times to adapt how the compressor reacts to those.

[Neon Breath]

I get the impression a lot of people bashing Melda simply have never used or understood these products.

Right right, if some people don't like Melda's GUI is it in fact because they don't understand the plugins

[Gamma-UT]

Right right, if some people don't like Melda's GUI is it in fact because they don't understand the plugins

Not liking something is not the same as it being bad. You're free to not like something as much as you want. When you start telling people something is bad simply because you don't like it and others don't see the same problem, then others are going to question your reasons.

[Neon Breath]

Right right, if some people don't like Melda's GUI is it in fact because they don't understand the plugins

Not liking something is not the same as it being bad. You're free to not like something as much as you want. When you start telling people something is bad simply because you don't like it and others don't see the same problem, then others are going to question your reasons.

Well you're free to like something as much as you want, doesn't mean they're good and well designed because you think so.

[Gamma-UT]

Well you're free to like something as much as you want, doesn't mean they're good and well designed because you think so.

That would be the corollary, yes. However, my personal opinion of the Melda plugins has very little to do with the GUI and everything with being able to do certain things with them that involve a lot of complex routing in DAW vs the alternatives in the plugin folder. I happen to like that. If other people don't want that, that's great, don't buy them.

[masterhiggins]

I get the impression a lot of people bashing Melda simply have never used or understood these products.

Right right, if some people don't like Melda's GUI is it in fact because they don't understand the plugins

I changed my mind about them recently. I used to despise their GUIs, but as I tried to use them more often, I discovered that they're so insanely flexible (you can modulate and fine tune almost anything to the point of ridiculousness), it would be nearly impossible to really optimize the GUI any further. With mrhythmizer, for example, you can modulate the pattern-selectors with any of their mod sources (envelope, Lfo, step sequencer, etc). You can set level-dependent modulation so that quiet percussion patterns are processed with different patterns (or even groups of patterns). And you can can even modulate those thresholds with step-sequencers...just insane options. And that's just the beginning.

[nichttuntun]

I think a further problem for Melda is that they are giving away many plugins for free. I can imagine that some people won´t spent too much effort to fully read the big manuals and try to dig all the options of a Melda-VST when they recieved it for free. I can imagine some are loading it down and want to have fast and superb results without delving into it so deep. And thats simply not possible as the presets are mostly terrible. At first I thought MPowerSynth is a terrible waste of money because I just listened to the abominable presets...but now I know that it is truly a weapon

I think that could be the other way round for the people who bought a Melda-VST.

I can only speak for myself and the more I work with Melda-Stuff the more I appreciate their VST workflow and layout. Please don´t confuse "layout" with the GUI-design here again.

There is nothing better for me to open (for example) 4 modulator-curve-designer windows simultaniously plus having the main page of the VST still open to tweak further. All windows are sizeable! And with 2 monitors this is such a relaxed and comfortable working process...that I now begin to miss that feature in most other equally complex VSTs from other devs. Usually you have to change views very often to switch between different layers because most VSTs show different layers in one and the same window and that is really annoying.

Having that in mind I am really asking myself (and you!) where are the real arguments against Meldas layout-decisions? I couldn´t find one reasonable in this whole discussion which is a real reason to not use Melda VSTs. I just read about objections and they all seemed to be based on emotions.

[Armagibbon]

Melda looks like shit but they're damn good. Feels like cheating to use those plugs... and prolly is cuz they copy everyone ahahaha

[Distorted Horizon]

they copy everyone ahahaha

Get inspired by everyone and make something Meldaish unique

[Armagibbon]

they copy everyone ahahaha

Get inspired by everyone and make something Meldaish unique

Sure I can live with that hahaha

Always gotta give props to the guy who takes ideas and makes em better. That's melda imo

[Gamma-UT]

Melda looks like shit but they're damn good. Feels like cheating to use those plugs... and prolly is cuz they copy everyone ahahaha

Be sure to let us know what MTurboReverb copies. Or MDynamics.

Or MPowersynth. People keep bellyaching about that one because it doesn't work like most softsynths.

[Armagibbon]

Melda looks like shit but they're damn good. Feels like cheating to use those plugs... and prolly is cuz they copy everyone ahahaha

Be sure to let us know what MTurboReverb copies. Or MDynamics.

Or MPowersynth. People keep bellyaching about that one because it doesn't work like most softsynths.

Everything. Too much shit to copy out there right? So melda copied em all and put em in one plug for each type. Makes sense to me ahaha

That's all just jokes man. He copies some shit yea but does it his own way. Then there's the originals. Like mspectraldynamics is some alien technology shit...

[pekbro]

I don't mind the Melda UI and I like their workflow and flexibility. That's about the extent of it
for me.