I am sorry to disappoint you but crosstalk feature of console emulations is a fake

[vurt]

and the earth is flat. i saw a video on youtube, so it must be true.

[herodotus]

With digital you 1) have no own noise floor (all the noise you have is the recording samples only) 2) have almost the same threashold of distortion due to excess amplification which is 0db roughly (each vst may have a bit different value but close to 0) and that distortion has digital odour not the analog clipping one withing giving birth to nonlinear harmonics based on the infinity which is nature's feature while... Digital will give you some unified distortion harmonics, to avoid which you will want to use some vsts with hw emulation or built-in glimpses of nature in the form of irs (airwindows solution?)

Wow. Just wow.

digital odour; proven by physics to be the inverse of analogue heat shimmer.

Calculated with natural or unnatural infinity?

both of course. we're talking science here, man.

Yeah. I am surprised you didn't know that, jupiter8. It was well covered in that white paper by Blondlot and Lysenko. You know the one.

[mystran]

and the earth is flat. i saw a video on youtube, so it must be true.

This whole flat vs. round earth thing is such a huge joke, when it should be totally obvious to anyone with the slightest clue that earth is actually hyperbolic.

[vurt]

and the earth is flat. i saw a video on youtube, so it must be true.

This whole flat vs. round earth thing is such a huge joke, when it should be totally obvious to anyone with the slightest clue that earth is actually hyperbolic.

im going to need a link to a youtube video to believe that. or a wikipedia article.

[whyterabbyt]

and the earth is flat. i saw a video on youtube, so it must be true.

This whole flat vs. round earth thing is such a huge joke, when it should be totally obvious to anyone with the slightest clue that earth is actually hyperbolic.

what, like the soap?

[Grumbleweed]

I had one of them but the drugs calmed it so I had a pair of sedatebolics.

Grum.

[vurt]

and the earth is flat. i saw a video on youtube, so it must be true.

This whole flat vs. round earth thing is such a huge joke, when it should be totally obvious to anyone with the slightest clue that earth is actually hyperbolic.

what, like the soap?

is it hypo-allergenic as well?

[v1o]

Crosstalk use to happen on ageing mixers it was a pita.Why the f%*k would you want to emulate it or worse still fake it and market it as a feature STFU

Why do we want saturation from old gear? Why do we want less precise compressors, eq like old gear and not the digital ones which are better, cleaner?

My point is, if the end result sounds good, it doesn't matter how did you get there. If crosstalk helps you get what you want and it sounds good to majority of people, it doesn't matter what the guy above says or thinks.

The thing is that crosstalk, like microphone bleed, has always been a bug, not a feature of recording with analog gear. Every reputable audio engineer avoids it whenever possible. When it can't be avoided, it is tamed with the use of noise gates and other dynamics processors. Emulating it is kind of like adding 60 cycle hum to a digitally processed guitar track.

I have heard engineers wax poetic about the distinct qualities of Fairchild compressors, Telefunken microphones and Pultec equalizers. I have never heard a single one talking about that sweet, sweet, crosstalk. Ever. And I am old.

But I am sure kvr will find one sooner or later.

In any case, if you like it, I am not going to say it's wrong. But I reserve the right to call it kind of weird.

Distortion and saturation was not a feature of old vintage analogue gear either. The old SSL engineers said when they were designing their boards, the idea was to avoid any distortion to the signal and create the cleanest most accurate signal path that was possible. However they were limited by the technology and components available to them at the time. Yes they were some engineers who liked to record hot and clip their gear but there were working outside of the operating guidelines of the gear.

[Acid Mitch]

and the earth is flat. i saw a video on youtube, so it must be true.

This whole flat vs. round earth thing is such a huge joke, when it should be totally obvious to anyone with the slightest clue that earth is actually hyperbolic.

what, like the soap?

I think he means more like half the posts here at KVR.

[solomute]

Distortion and saturation was not a feature of old vintage analogue gear either. The old SSL engineers said when they were designing their boards, the idea was to avoid any distortion to the signal and create the cleanest most accurate signal path that was possible. However they were limited by the technology and components available to them at the time. Yes they were some engineers who liked to record hot and clip their gear but there were working outside of the operating guidelines of the gear.

BEcause at those times classical music still prevailed and then it was found that distortion effects can create new influences on the minds. Thus the jwsh band the Beatles adored double tracking technique where voice of the soloist was doubled. When i was in my much younger years I perfectly heard that double tracking satanic thing and I insisted to the parents on the fact that the voice was doubled but no one believed me. Now many years after I don't hear doubling due to natural hearing loss with age but as an investigator of sound with all digital tools in my disposal I now know perfectly that it may take place. So the interesting idea is that some effects of the past like doubling should be avoided because children can perfectly hear the crap inside.

Concerning the remark about advocating genwave, I want to emphasize that I no longer recommend using genwave because of its instability and large latency. Also I don't recommend so called linear phase eqs because they have ringing artifacts which are even worse that those of non-linear phase eqs + great latency. Currently I recommend using hofa iq-eq which is equalizer + compressor in one + sidechain support + ms\mono\stereo separate processing + 64 bit internal processing + resampling to higher values + high db\oct values + etc. So the guy who recommended hofa plugins was not lying and hereby I confirm it. You must use iq-eq on tracks instead of all other eqs and compressors you have. The only exception is the master bus where you should use some eq with analog coloring and to that matter I can recommend free lufticus eq which surpasses any nonfree eqs as to coloration. Also I have found that hofa's compressors do not add aftifacts at all. Recently I have come across the phenomenon that samplitude's efx_comp was not able to compress my acoustic recording. Also another channel strip's compressor by another nonfree dveloper failed the same way. So be perfectly sure that a lot of plugins are just crap but hofa is the way to go. Hofa adds no coloration, so for that matter you are invited to use some saturation plugins but don't use built-in plugins of samplitude due to their instability and unpredicted artifacts.

[whyterabbyt]

Thus the jwsh band the Beatles adored double tracking technique where voice of the soloist was doubled.

What's 'jwsh?'

[vurt]

can we finally get rid of this racist shit talk box.

[vurt]

Thus the jwsh band the Beatles adored double tracking technique where voice of the soloist was doubled.

What's 'jwsh?'

must be slang for scouse, because thats what the beatles where.

[Burillo]

Beatles are a jewish band, and double tracking is satanic. that's... quite a statement

[vurt]

Beatles are a jewish band, and double tracking is satanic. that's... quite a statement

backwards masking with double tracking is even worse, thats how to summon cthulhu