KVR Audio

excessional · Post by **excessional** » Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:36 am

If they want a stripped down version they presumably have the rights to all the Sonar DAW versions -such as the basic version or even Music Creator 6. They have released the full thing though.

DAWs are like word processors - you get used to the one you learn on.
You can learn to use others but there is a time and workflow cost whilst you figure them out.

Cakewalk is a very full featured DAW for free. It is going to increase its user base for sure if it keeps being stable and free.

I have Sonar Plat but bought it in increments on sale and it only cost me about $200-$250 in all - for that I also got Z3ta2, Dim Pro, Rapture, Melodyne Essential and AD2 with 3 packs thrown in. I think that was good value just for the VSTs. I'll keep my last version of Plat but will also port over to this - hopefully there is no material difference...

zzz00m · Post by **zzz00m** » Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:47 am

Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote:
They're pretty clear that's not the plan. For isntance, there was this statement by one "Meng" (one of the Bandlab folks on the Cakewalk forum):

Fyi: that "Meng" dude is the BandLab CEO.

Pretty cool of him to jump into the forums to help provide info!

He is a serious musician, and really wants to make this work!

JoseC. · Post by **JoseC.** » Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:57 am

zzz00m wrote:
Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote:
They're pretty clear that's not the plan. For isntance, there was this statement by one "Meng" (one of the Bandlab folks on the Cakewalk forum):

Fyi: that "Meng" dude is the BandLab CEO.

Pretty cool of him to jump into the forums to help provide info!

He is a serious musician, and really wants to make this work!

The guy is a billionaire with way more money than Cockos Justin. If Justin could make Reaper survive as, in practice, donationware, surely Meng can do it for even less

dellboy · Post by **dellboy** » Wed Apr 11, 2018 9:20 am

JoseC. wrote: The guy is a billionaire with way more money than Cockos Justin. If Justin could make Reaper survive as, in practice, donationware, surely Meng can do it for even less

No, he is not a billionaire - yet.

His father Mr Kuok Khoon Hong, who is the founder of the world’s largest palm oil business, Wilmar International, is a billionaire. Meng is one of four children who may or may not go on to inherit their fathers fortune.

Perhaps it would be better to call him a "billion-heir".

JoseC. · Post by **JoseC.** » Wed Apr 11, 2018 11:50 am

dellboy wrote:
JoseC. wrote: The guy is a billionaire with way more money than Cockos Justin. If Justin could make Reaper survive as, in practice, donationware, surely Meng can do it for even less
No, he is not a billionaire - yet.

His father Mr Kuok Khoon Hong, who is the founder of the world’s largest palm oil business, Wilmar International, is a billionaire. Meng is one of four children who may or may not go on to inherit their fathers fortune.

Perhaps it would be better to call him a "billion-heir".

Well, it seems that he has access to dad's funds, and he is worth $13 billions, so that point is moot from my piss poor point of view

http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/consume ... oil-riches

dellboy · Post by **dellboy** » Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:34 pm

JoseC. wrote:
Well, it seems that he has access to dad's funds, and he is worth $13 billions, so that point is moot from my piss poor point of view

http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/consume ... oil-riches

Its not Mengs father who is worth $13 billion. He is the nephew of Robert Kuok who is worth that amount.

Mengs father is still worth a respectable $2.7 billion according to wiki. As to how much he has contributed to Mengs music related activities it states in the article you linked to.......

"We don't believe in entitlement," said Mr Kuok, who declined to say how much of his funding came directly from his father.

zzz00m · Post by **zzz00m** » Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:41 pm

BandLab is a startup company that is currently funded through 2018.

JoseC. · Post by **JoseC.** » Wed Apr 11, 2018 2:15 pm

dellboy wrote:
JoseC. wrote:
Well, it seems that he has access to dad's funds, and he is worth $13 billions, so that point is moot from my piss poor point of view

http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/consume ... oil-riches
Its not Mengs father who is worth $13 billion. He is the nephew of Robert Kuok who is worth that amount.

Mengs father is still worth a respectable $2.7 billion according to wiki. As to how much he has contributed to Mengs music related activities it states in the article you linked to.......

"We don't believe in entitlement," said Mr Kuok, who declined to say how much of his funding came directly from his father.

You are right, I read too fast, wronk Kuok.

Woodgardens · Post by **Woodgardens** » Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:13 pm

Woodgardens wrote:
zzz00m wrote:
Woodgardens wrote:The illusion that this app is free is kind of laughable IMO
Considered how many paid for its development.
I paid for 20 years. I am not laughing.

I am sincerely happy to see it carry on, rather than be buried!
You are not laughing, but you are happy? Mmmkay..

@zzz00m

Sorry for my stupid comment, my mind must have been somewhere else att

VELLTONE MUSIC · Post by **VELLTONE MUSIC** » Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:06 pm

after installing it some weird stuff start hapening ,like mozilla give me 'conection error' and had to deinstall all ...any ideas why is this happened?

zzz00m · Post by **zzz00m** » Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:07 pm

Woodgardens wrote:
@zzz00m

Sorry for my stupid comment, my mind must have been somewhere else att

No problem, that happens to all of us sooner or later!

I believe that Meng's master plan for giving this thing away is world domination. Imagine if this gets widely adopted in the education market. Kids will learn this in school, produce a zillion YouTube tutorials, and it will become the industry standard.

Now you are free to laugh at that last statement if you wish!

zzz00m · Post by **zzz00m** » Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:12 pm

VELLTONE MUSIC wrote:after installing it some weird stuff start hapening ,like mozilla give me 'conection error' and had to deinstall all ...any ideas why is this happened?

Yup, that is weird but probably unrelated. Whenever Mozilla gives me a connection error, it is something network related.

Server Not Found - Troubleshoot connection problems
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/se ... on-problem

baaz · Post by **baaz** » Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:15 pm

VELLTONE MUSIC wrote:after installing it some weird stuff start hapening ,like mozilla give me 'conection error' and had to deinstall all ...any ideas why is this happened?

lemme put my tin foil hat on then i'll help you troubleshoot

lol relax, Companies like Bandland have no interest in installing troubleware/ransomware in your PC.

BMoore · Post by **BMoore** » Wed Apr 11, 2018 8:47 pm

fmr wrote:
BMoore wrote:
fmr wrote:Music software companies that I know have "assistants":

Native Instruments
Arturia
Steinberg
IK Multimedia
iZotope (although they don't force it on users... yet)
Softube
MAGIX
Camel Audio (now disappeared)
Apple
This isn't an argument for a Bandlab(!) "assistant" for a free DAW.
Except that MAYBE they want to create a whole eco-system around Cakewalk, with downloadable content (eventually paid), in which case the "assistant" makes all the sense. After all, this is a business corporation, and certainly they have a business model thought for it. It's not a bedroom developer that just launched an "app", decided to gave it away and forget about it.

And MAYBE Facebook just want to help people connect.

thecontrolcentre · Post by **thecontrolcentre** » Wed Apr 11, 2018 9:34 pm

VELLTONE MUSIC wrote:after installing it some weird stuff start hapening ,like mozilla give me 'conection error' and had to deinstall all ...any ideas why is this happened?

I had to uninstall (then delete) all of the Bandlab "Assistant" software ... it was slowing my start-up times down.

Cakewalk Sonar Platinum is now free!