Zebra3 Info

[Shiek927]

Tip for Z2: Learn to trust/distrust your ears instead of worrying about numbers

This goes towards ALL aspects of music :'D.

Whether songwriting all the way to mastering, 9/10 if it sounds good, it IS good :3.

[ajax.is.great]

Tip for Z2: Learn to trust/distrust your ears instead of worrying about numbers

I definitely see the wisdom in that. I was fooling around with an idea I read about where you tune instruments to mimic the spectral content of another instrument ("Partiels" by Gerard Grisey if anybody's curious), and it occurred to me that it might help with some mathier composition contexts to have that kind of precision right there in front of me. But, totally granted, 99.9% of the time the numbers shouldn't be driving sound design.

And the pleasurability for the listener of that remaining 0.1% is... dubious haha.

[karrikuh]

Quick question: are there plans to make it so that the main oscillators in Z3 can serve as FM carriers? This is something I always wished you could do in Z2. Sorry if this has already been answered/discussed; it's a pretty big thread

There's a plan to make them FM carriers for actual FM rather than DX-style Phase Modulation.

Could you consider also phase modulation for wavetable oscs? There are some nasty (in a good way) sounds you get from PMing by a modulator waveform with discontinuities (such as sawtooth) which I fear can't be achieved with FM. These kinds of sounds are very popular in genres like dubstep, drum'n'bass, neuro funk and the like.

[goleat]

Can the names of the "Favourites" tags be customized by others?



If so, how do I do it?

On the other hand, in Z3, it would be nice to see an infinite modulation matrix as can be seen in "VPS Avenger" and the ability to assign modulators via drag and drop.

[EvilDragon]

Not possible yet, it's noted by u-he. Eventually it'll happen.


You can already assign things via drag&drop from the mod matrix.

[joeyluck]

Hey everybody!

I'm new here and a little late to this party
I just purchased Zebra2 and ZebraHZ yesterday. Which I suppose means a free update to Zebra3 when it's released!

I'm excited to get started with Zebra2/HZ and learning them as best I can, inside and out. I found the tutorial series on YouTube and will begin watching those.

My question is in regards to changes being made to Zebra3... As I understand it, it won't be able to load presets from Zebra2 because of changes. Will Zebra3 feel much different and how much of a learning curve might those changes introduce, particularly for someone who is just beginning with Zebra2? With 200+ pages here, I of course have some catching up to do on this news, so I apologize for being behind.

I'm very happy already that my timing was met with an exciting Zebra2 update And looks like a ZebraHZ update is around the corner.

One of the features I would like to see is being able to lock the pitch bend range (so that it doesn't change when changing patches). I'm having fun using this with my Seaboard Block, but it's dependent on the pitch range setting remaining the same. I see that the +/-48 range was new with the 2.8 update, which may have been to accompany the Seaboard and similar controllers? But being able to lock the range would make it very handy when browsing patches and playing with something like a Seaboard. Or is there a way to do this that I am missing?

Cheers!
Joey

[yellowmix]

But being able to lock the range would make it very handy when browsing patches and playing with something like a Seaboard. Or is there a way to do this that I am missing?

You can lock any control by right-clicking on it and choosing "Lock", including the pitch bend range.

[joeyluck]

But being able to lock the range would make it very handy when browsing patches and playing with something like a Seaboard. Or is there a way to do this that I am missing?

You can lock any control by right-clicking on it and choosing "Lock", including the pitch bend range.

Doh!

Well I'm off to a great start here!

Thank you very much for pointing that out. I will now continue reading the manual. I did start to! But before posting, I only searched for "pitch bend" and not "lock." And there it is not too far into the manual... This feature is of course much cooler than my simple suggestion for locking one parameter, so I wasn't even thinking along the lines of a broader application for it. Thanks again!

[Howard]

I will now continue reading the manual.

[zerocrossing]

I guess 2024...

I can't imagine the sci-fi ramifications of releasing it in 2019 not being a factor. 2049 would work too, but we'd all be a lot more sad.

[sircuit]

2049 would work too, but we'd all be a lot more sad.

And some of us quite dead

[Shiek927]

This may or may not be a silly question....

But wouldn't it be easier to give it's own zero-delay feedback filters to Zebra2 and call it a day as opposed to create a new synth from the ground-up?

Haha, it feels like Z3 has been perpetually pushed back, but Z2 continues to be updated with new features as it's always has. Barring the very musical ZDF filters, what necessarily constitutes a 'next-gen' synth?

Because to me personally, that's the main thing because of it's sheer musicality and what it brings to the table. Zebra2 is already incredibly flexible and always has been. Improving the filters to match the big synths of today may arguably be all it takes (and I believe the filters improved in version 2.6 if I'm correct?). It certainly is a big thing in my book. Hypothetically speaking, what are people's expectations of Z3 that couldn't also potentially just come in as future updates overtime for Z2?

I'm curious what other people might think and if it's better to simply continue improving Z2 as-is or actually make something from the ground up .

[pdxindy]

I'm curious what other people might think and if it's better to simply continue improving Z2 as-is or actually make something from the ground up .

From the ground up allows much more freedom to update all the various modules without worrying about preset compatibility.

So all the developments cultivated in the making of Diva, Bazille, RePro, FX etc can be added to Zebra (in the ways it makes sense to have in Zebra). Having to maintain preset compatibility would get too much in the way.

From the ground up also means that Zebra will become MPE capable, which it currently isn't. Etc.

[R0bins0n]

Hi Urs

Are the system requirements for Zebra 3 planned to be more than this ?

Model Name: MacBook Air
Model Identifier: MacBookAir7,2
Processor Name: Intel Core i5
Processor Speed: 1.6 GHz
Number of Processors: 1
Total Number of Cores: 2
L2 Cache (per Core): 256 KB
L3 Cache: 3 MB
Memory: 8 GB

I can’t see myself upgrading this MacBook for another 18 months. Zebra 2.8 runs fine on this, but you’re talking about Z3 being a ‘next generation’ synth and I don’t think this Mac is ‘next generation’ anything

I likely wouldn’t be using more than 2 instances of Z3, usually only one.

Thanks for any info you have on this.

[EvilDragon]

1.6 GHz is really "thin". Check out how it runs Diva in "divine" mode, Z3 might be comparable to that, probably. We don't know for sure but yeah it will definitely be hungrier than Z2.