GPDR: Humanity - is that all ?

[Urs]

There is a very simple reason why a lot of companies use Mailchimp, which is a service that, above a fairly low threshold that I imagine u-he exceeds, costs money. If spam didn't exist, everyone would just use their own mailservers and not bother paying Mailchimp. But because spam does exist and so do IP blacklists, ISPs get really nervous about their clients sending large quantities of email, to the extent they will kick you off the servers for going above their threshold of so-many-per-hour. So, people use Mailchimp.

Some time ten or eleven years ago I had a respectable list of about 2000 email addresses which needed to be notified of some update. Back then I'd prepare an email, copy/paste the content to 20 mail windows, pasted 100 emails addresses from that list each into the BCC fields (coz a 100 a pop was max in that app) and hit send 20x. After about five minutes, between 50 and 100 emails were delivered and our inbox was full with "Mail delivery failed..." for a whopping 1900+ emails. It took more than a week to be able to do proper customer support again. This was our reality before MailChimp.

If there was an alternative to MailChimp, I'd be happy to know. They're not exactly cheap, but their tools and their performance are simply great.

[lunardigs]

Or you could, y'know, read the actual legislation and make a determination rather than go full InfoWars on it just because it came from the gubmint. ...

Yup, read a great deal of it so far--and it didn't come from the Gubmint; the Gubmint is what will enforce it. This is an important distinction. Gubmint is a tool and that tool is force, strictly speaking. It's not wisdom, it's not virtue, it's not justice ... it's not necessarily any of these things. Yet, it is and always will be force.

... and a number of legal experts on the privacy side who see it as broadly positive.

Yup, lawyers will benefit, undoubtedly.

If anything the business companies was successful in watering down the right-to-explanation provision just enough to make it something that won't be used an awful lot against Facebook etc. The earlier drafts were much tighter.

The Facebooks, Amazons and Googles of the world will be able to respond to these new rules well; they have virtually unlimited money and resources. Small-to-medium size businesses (anything sub-mega) on the other hand will experience something quite different. Can you see how big monopolies might like these new rules?

[Gamma-UT]

Can you see how big monopolies might like these new rules?

Yeah, they just love being tied up in cases brought by Max Schrems. Just can't get enough. I hear they like it so much they're going for a two-fer with the e-Privacy Directive, which guarantees another crops of complaints against Facebook and Google.

[nevis]

If there was an alternative to MailChimp, I'd be happy to know.

PM me.

[Urs]

If there was an alternative to MailChimp, I'd be happy to know.

PM me.

I can surely PM you but you can't PM me back

If it's secret because it hasn't officially started yet, it might take some time until it proves to be an alternative.

[nevis]

I try to avoid even the hint of misusing this forum for advertising. That was my intention.
If you PM me an email address, I will give you my idea and you decide what to do with it or if you share it later on.

[Urs]

I try to avoid even the hint of misusing this forum for advertising. That was my intention.
If you PM me an email address, I will give you my idea and you decide what to do with it or if you share it later on.

hehe, ok...

I have abandoned email though, there just wasn't any humanly possible way for me to keep up with things, i.e too many emails got lost when I decided that 3 hours a day was too much. Hence it all goes through my staff now. The best place is info@u-he.com or support@u-he.com - this way the guys will make sure that I get to see it.

[nevis]

I fully understand the PM/email thing

[lunardigs]

Can you see how big monopolies might like these new rules?

Yeah, they just love being tied up in cases brought by Max Schrems. Just can't get enough. I hear they like it so much they're going for a two-fer with the e-Privacy Directive, which guarantees another crops of complaints against Facebook and Google.

Think of a day when the brand Google and Facebook is no longer. This day will eventually come. Who then will be the new leaders (i.e. in control)? Who might be interested most to ask this question in a proactive manner?

We all know brands are transient. Our attention is transient. Yet, we consume constantly--we're called consumers! True monopolies know the business cycle and they know our consumer behavior (to speak of the devil himself here). So then, what sort of strategies might they employ to ensure their hegemony? A better question might be, what lengths won't they go to? ... Getting legislation passed and playing 'Brer Rabbit and the Briar Patch' is almost too classic.

Btw, I agree with you more than you may realize. I feel strongly that privacy is very important. I also feel that Google, Facebook, Amazon, etc. have been very abusive. Yet, I'm not specifically complaining about them, because I've avoided their services (protected myself), as best I can. I've done so for over a decade--hell, I was called nutso then for warning of what's now been realized!

On the other hand, there's no choice with GDPR; it's the law--a mammoth, one-size-fits-all law, with it's true intellectual origins not fully known--and that's the biggest trouble here (for what is says today, or in the future); we don't get a real choice in the matter. I don't think it ironic either how it's lauded as such: choice and protection for us consumers. ... I just don't buy it.

Of course, only time will tell. YES, I'd rather be celebrating GDPR. My opinions are sad and sucky, fine. ... Where's reality at though?

[aaron aardvark]

I figure that if I keep enough tin foil on my head, the NSA won't be able to determine if I prefer Zebra or Diva.

[lunardigs]

I figure that if I keep enough tin foil on my head, the NSA won't be able to determine if I prefer Zebra or Diva.

That's a great point! Big brother isn't watching so much as he is showing!

Hmm Could this be why I worship entertainment and wanna become a celebrity?

[mevla]

I figure that if I keep enough tin foil on my head, the NSA won't be able to determine if I prefer Zebra or Diva.

You can also get shots of aluminium through a variety of vaccines. Why keep it on the surface ?

[lunardigs]

I figure that if I keep enough tin foil on my head, the NSA won't be able to determine if I prefer Zebra or Diva.

You can also get shots of aluminium through a variety of vaccines. Why keep it on the surface ?

Yeah! Besides, microwaves can pass right through tin foil!

[aaron aardvark]

[mevla]

Yeah! Besides, microwaves can pass right through tin foil!

V2K power !