KVR Audio

starflakeprj · Post by **starflakeprj** » Wed May 30, 2018 6:28 pm

koshdukai wrote:
aMUSEd wrote:Awesome

So how do I stop it showing twice in the Reason browser (as device and plugin)?
You don't, unless you uninstall one of them.

Guess you may start nagging Proppellerhead support to add a "Hide this device from the list" option, since that is already happening with others that have a RE and VST version.

You have been able to disable VST plugins from showing since day one when VST support came.

Scotty · Post by **Scotty** » Wed May 30, 2018 6:37 pm

Wags.. I have Cubase 7 installed here on Windows 7 64 bit. I am just scanning plugins now and will let you know if I am able to get it running in Cubase 7 - I haven't launched Cubase 7 in a couple of years so the rescan will take a bit of time. ... it is working in 8.5,9 and 9.5 on my machine.

wagtunes wrote:FTR, I was really looking forward to this. Reason makes some of the best stuff. Thor is my favorite synth that I don't own.

Hopefully, one day, the issues will get worked out and this will work in Cubase 7.

One can hope.

Koshdukai · Post by **Koshdukai** » Wed May 30, 2018 7:26 pm

starflakeprj wrote:
koshdukai wrote:
aMUSEd wrote:Awesome

So how do I stop it showing twice in the Reason browser (as device and plugin)?
You don't, unless you uninstall one of them.

Guess you may start nagging Proppellerhead support to add a "Hide this device from the list" option, since that is already happening with others that have a RE and VST version.
You have been able to disable VST plugins from showing since day one when VST support came.

LOL, true! I totally forgot about the plugins window "Disable" toggle

My bad

THE INTRANCER · Post by **THE INTRANCER** » Wed May 30, 2018 7:45 pm

It works here with Studio One 3.56 on Windows 7 64.

GUI wise, I find the red on black just very very eye straining, and even though it scales larger, the modulation section knobs are still too small and this is still at the point where it's over scaling the interface of the DAW.

Sound wise, it sounds like Reason's interpolated low quality sound.

Really... you're probably best comparing this with UHE's free Zebralette synthesizer, before you consider dropping money on this. Not only does that free synth have a better and clearer GUI, but is much more powerful, is imop better sounding, and you can also re-skin it .

https://u-he.com/products/zebralette/

Crossinger · Post by **Crossinger** » Wed May 30, 2018 7:51 pm

@anosou and other people having issues while entering the license:

I'm on a Mac and for daily security reasons I only work with a standard user account (no admin rights). But admin rights are mandatory for finishing the registration process.

So follow these steps (on Mac):

1. Open prefs pane and upgrade your user to administrator
2. Restart Mac
3. Open Reason & Europa, finish the registration successfully
4. Revert the changes made in 1.

Done!

Maybe for Win users it's a similar issue?

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed May 30, 2018 7:59 pm

THE INTRANCER wrote: Sound wise, it sounds like Reason's interpolated low quality sound.

To be totally honest... that was exactly what i thought when demoing it. Simply reminds me of Thor, Subtractor, and Maelstroem.

Sound quality really has come a long way in the VST world.

Not sure why you'd think that Zebralette is more powerful than this though. It isn't.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Wed May 30, 2018 8:10 pm

Keep getting freezes in various hosts when flicking though presets and having to force quit them

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Wed May 30, 2018 8:25 pm

Also trying to find a matching font for my NKS template, anyone know what it is (the one I used is the closet I had on my system but it's not entirely right, too angular)?

EnochLight · Post by **EnochLight** » Wed May 30, 2018 8:31 pm

chk071 wrote:
THE INTRANCER wrote: Sound wise, it sounds like Reason's interpolated low quality sound.
To be totally honest... that was exactly what i thought when demoing it. Simply reminds me of Thor, Subtractor, and Maelstroem.

LOL!!! You guys are hilarious.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed May 30, 2018 8:34 pm

You know, there's simply something bland sounding about their synths. Dunno what it is really. Lack of oversampling? Spire e.g. sounds miles better to me than their included synths, or Europa as well.

0degree · Post by **0degree** » Wed May 30, 2018 8:37 pm

Can PH VST(s) be resold or are they can't be transferred just as RE?

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Wed May 30, 2018 8:39 pm

0degree wrote:Can PH VST(s) be resold or are they can't be transferred just as RE?

You mean the one you got for free? Come the f**k on...

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed May 30, 2018 8:40 pm

Yeah, that's the first thing i wonder about a thing i just bought too. Can i sell it??

EnochLight · Post by **EnochLight** » Wed May 30, 2018 8:41 pm

chk071 wrote:You know, there's simply something bland sounding about their synths. Dunno what it is really. Lack of oversampling? Spire e.g. sounds miles better to me than their included synths, or Europa as well.

I love Spire, but I wouldn't compare it to Europa. I'd compare Europa more to Serum or Thorn, or a variety of other wavetable synths. Someone A/B'd a wavetable being processed in Serum, Europa, and Expanse over at Reasontalk. After their testing method was fixed (they couldn't get the settings in Expanse figured out), the end result was: virtually no difference in sound.

But... sound quality is subjective these days, IMHO.

v1o · Post by **v1o** » Wed May 30, 2018 8:41 pm

THE INTRANCER wrote:It works here with Studio One 3.56 on Windows 7 64.

GUI wise, I find the red on black just very very eye straining, and even though it scales larger, the modulation section knobs are still too small and this is still at the point where it's over scaling the interface of the DAW.

Sound wise, it sounds like Reason's interpolated low quality sound.

Really... you're probably best comparing this with UHE's free Zebralette synthesizer, before you consider dropping money on this. Not only does that free synth have a better and clearer GUI, but is much more powerful, is imop better sounding, and you can also re-skin it .

https://u-he.com/products/zebralette/

You can oversample it if you want.

However personally I have yet to find a VST with similar sound quality. Europa is just stellar.

Europa Shapeshifting Synth - 1st VST/AU by Propellerhead