KVR Audio

Synthman2000 · Post by **Synthman2000** » Sat Jun 02, 2018 10:47 am

I have literally just purchased this from a reliable person on here. I will be using Cubase as my main DAW still but there are some things I would like to learn in Ableton which are simply impossible to do elsewhere.

I think I have quite a bit learning curve ahead, this is going to be a long term project.

mgw38 · Post by **mgw38** » Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:27 am

aMUSEd wrote:aupreset bug not fixed

It is actually worse than that. I did not have it before and now the bug showed up out of nowhere. I was working on a project that was pushing the limits of the audio setup a bit. The update happened completely invisible in the background right after a very violent crash, so naturally I assumed it was the crash that corrupted some audio drivers. After I could not fix the audio problem I decided to do a full OS reinstall only to find out later that is was actually the Ableton update that caused the issue. Took me almost 4 days to get all my licenses back to full working order.

risome · Post by **risome** » Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:36 am

Rock solid here

generaldiomedes · Post by **generaldiomedes** » Sat Jun 02, 2018 8:49 pm

Still having issues with the browser not working for project files.

Mister Natural · Post by **Mister Natural** » Sun Jun 03, 2018 10:04 pm

zero issues here - Suite, WIN10, Tascam u7000

. . . but then again, I've had zero issues with LIVE performance since v.6 . . .

I asked my car mechanic once(I was considering a new car at the time) what brand he would recommend. He said, "don't ask me, I only see the broken ones". I think that's the case with software issues as well. You only hear of the 1 in 100(for ex.) who are having/have had trouble

peace

shonky · Post by **shonky** » Sun Jun 03, 2018 10:20 pm

After a quick internet search, found out the issues I was having with screen lag was easily fixed by just trashing the config file in Ableton 10.0.2, although did have to rescan plugs and have to set up devices again but at least it's working fine now.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Sun Jun 03, 2018 10:26 pm

Mister Natural wrote: I asked my car mechanic once(I was considering a new car at the time) what brand he would recommend. He said, "don't ask me, I only see the broken ones". I think that's the case with software issues as well. You only hear of the 1 in 100(for ex.) who are having/have had trouble

So true, for everything. And, people looking on the net will see the gazillions of issues people assumedly have with the software, thus think the software is full of issues.

Unrelated to this thread, of the issues described.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Sun Jun 03, 2018 10:30 pm

shonky wrote:After a quick internet search, found out the issues I was having with screen lag was easily fixed by just trashing the config file in Ableton 10.0.2, although did have to rescan plugs and have to set up devices again but at least it's working fine now.

Which is here

https://help.ableton.com/hc/en-us/artic ... reset-Live

teilo · Post by **teilo** » Mon Jun 04, 2018 9:33 pm

Mister Natural wrote:I asked my car mechanic once(I was considering a new car at the time) what brand he would recommend. He said, "don't ask me, I only see the broken ones". I think that's the case with software issues as well. You only hear of the 1 in 100(for ex.) who are having/have had trouble

If this was a corner case, I would agree. But it's not a corner case. All the people happy with this build are Windows users. If you were on a Mac, you would not be so cavalier about it because almost every Mac user is affected. You can't change a f*ing preset in most AU plugins without Ableton crashing.

That's not a minor bug. That's a showstopper. They prioritized an annoying bug over a breaking bug. To me it says that Ableton views Mac users as second-class citizens.

Mister Natural · Post by **Mister Natural** » Mon Jun 04, 2018 10:38 pm

. . . not being "cavalier" - I understand that there exists some users frustrated but(my sole & humble point is) there are many, many that aren't
10.02 has been out what; a week ?

best of luck that Abe sort whatever this is out asap

mgw38 · Post by **mgw38** » Tue Jun 05, 2018 1:04 am

Mister Natural wrote:. . . not being "cavalier" - I understand that there exists some users frustrated but(my sole & humble point is) there are many, many that aren't
10.02 has been out what; a week ?

best of luck that Abe sort whatever this is out asap

The main issue here is that they pushed an update that they knew would break some systems through their update system which updates Ableton in the background without notifying the user that an update has happened. The system just stopped working out of nowhere.

If you have an update that you know is going to break systems, even if it is only for a few of your customers, you give advance notice.

I'm a big fan of Ableton Live and that is not going to change, but this was surprisingly unprofessional.

tooneba · Post by **tooneba** » Tue Jun 05, 2018 6:36 am

But you agreed to the EULA. Auto update is supposed to work like that. You can turn it off anytime.

cowby · Post by **cowby** » Tue Jun 05, 2018 3:02 pm

Boys and girls, don't forget to download their newly released - Creative Extensions (Live 10 suite).

mcbpete · Post by **mcbpete** » Tue Jun 05, 2018 4:00 pm

mgw38 wrote:The main issue here is that they pushed an update that they knew would break some systems through their update system which updates Ableton in the background without notifying the user that an update has happened. The system just stopped working out of nowhere.

....

I'm a big fan of Ableton Live and that is not going to change, but this was surprisingly unprofessional.

Yeah totally agreed, they should've released the download link for 10.0.2 for us Windows users and held off the Mac build till it was fixed. Totally understandable to have these kinda 'game-breaking' bugs in the beta builds but for a proper point release knowing there's such an issue does seem a little out of character for them.

evertonfan · Post by **evertonfan** » Tue Jun 05, 2018 4:58 pm

If you have a Mac & use AU plugins.....like my good self.....AVOID updating to 10.0.2. Just don't do it! I utterly love Ableton Live & I was as happy as a happy person in happy land when Live 10.0.1 came out.....it was really stable & I was just loving using Live 10 on my Mac. Then I made the mistake of updating to 10.0.2 last Friday & had the weekend from hell as Live 10.0.2 crashed & crashed & crashed. Downgraded to 10.0.1 & then had the fun of experiencing auto update.....seriously was not happy! I just don't get it....my confidence in Ableton Live was rock solid until this fiasco. Now I am thinking can I trust Ableton Live as a DAW going forward? I have BitWig, Reason, Reaper & Logic Pro but I always prefer using Live.......so for heaven's sake don't release a version of the software with a known bug that is going to disrupt severely a number of its users. I am no developer, just a user but from what I have read it seems that Ableton decided that fixing the drag & drop issue would generate less complaints than the Mac/AU crashing issue? Sorry if that's an over-simplification but that's how it came across? And don't get me wrong I love, love, love Ableton.....but this was just like....why do that? Pushing out the Windows update & then waiting for the Mac version to become stable seems a much better way to proceed....surely?

Ableton Live 10.0.2 is out