This is indeed very exciting... but you have to stop teasing us. Spill the beans already!Urs wrote:So today it makes a lot of sense to add a bit of Zebra3 tech back into Hive - and repurpose it to do something unique and utterly useful. I'm very excited about this. In fact, I can hardly sleep lately. In a few days we'll be able to fully test the new oscillator additions and maybe reveal a bit more about it.
Regarding Lennard was in U-He, was just a punUrs wrote:Hehehe, EvilDragon is right, how do you read that out of what I wrote?phreaque wrote:- I sense that Lennard was one of U-He team in the past, there's a little indication I got from what you wrote above.
Many synths bear a lot of resemblance with Sylenth (and vice versa), but most have tried to "add more" to the game. More layers, more tabs, more waveforms, more unison voices. But this hasn't necessarily made them better. More interesting maybe, more this, more that, but hardly ever better, at least not at the things Sylenth is loved for. When people asked us to "make a synth like Sylenth", they meant its simplicity, the low CPU usage and a certain variety of presets other than "just prog, vintage and cinematic". Any attempt to go there will look like Sylenth, simply because Sylenth is the archetype of that.
because both you don't bring updates often. 
Well this just isn't true. u-he updates far more often. And also have a far greater catalog of products to update, too.phreaque wrote:because both you don't bring updates often.
My guys would be at my throat for any premature announcement. Too much can go wrong, too many things can cause delays. I'm actually afraid that announcing what we do will cause so much feedback or requests, I won't be able to concentrate. Even though I haven't been this motivated for a while, it's better to keep things understated.ionekvr wrote:Spill the beans already!
Too late.Urs wrote:I'm actually afraid that announcing what we do will cause so much feedback or requests, I won't be able to concentrate.
Urs wrote:That said, the thing I'm most excited about does not have a name yet. It's an algorithm I invented which, much like a Zebra2 Osc FX, creates very surprising waveform transformations. There were quite a few WTF-moments in u-he HQs, as I was testing this on selected waveforms. Once "loads of waveforms" are added to Hive I will continue to explore this algorithm and if it survives a bunch of critical checks (e.g. CPU usage, ease of use), I'll happily post some examples.
M O N O S Y N T H S F O R E V E R Oh man, that sounds absolutely golden. That sort of 'light' wavetable shaping is killer for dubstep and those sorts of digital styles that wavestable synths like Massive were essentially made for. It sounds like it will pretty much solve it altogetherUrs wrote:My guys would be at my throat for any premature announcement. Too much can go wrong, too many things can cause delays. I'm actually afraid that announcing what we do will cause so much feedback or requests, I won't be able to concentrate. Even though I haven't been this motivated for a while, it's better to keep things understated.ionekvr wrote:Spill the beans already!
I have reached a few milestones though. Let's just say, there'll be loads of waveforms, but not much added clutter or complexity. Neither excessive CPU usage nor mind bending eye candy.
That said, the thing I'm most excited about does not have a name yet. It's an algorithm I invented which, much like a Zebra2 Osc FX, creates very surprising waveform transformations. There were quite a few WTF-moments in u-he HQs, as I was testing this on selected waveforms. Once "loads of waveforms" are added to Hive I will continue to explore this algorithm and if it survives a bunch of critical checks (e.g. CPU usage, ease of use), I'll happily post some examples.
. We'll see... currently hacking that algorithm into Hive...Shiek927 wrote:Oh man, that sounds absolutely golden. That sort of 'light' wavetable shaping is killer for dubstep and those sorts of digital styles that wavestable synths like Massive were essentially made for. It sounds like it will pretty much solve it altogether
Ummm... what does that say about me if I get a little turned on by this post?Urs wrote:Let's just say, there'll be loads of waveforms, but not much added clutter or complexity. Neither excessive CPU usage nor mind bending eye candy.ionekvr wrote:Spill the beans already!
That said, the thing I'm most excited about does not have a name yet. It's an algorithm I invented which, much like a Zebra2 Osc FX, creates very surprising waveform transformations. There were quite a few WTF-moments in u-he HQs, as I was testing this on selected waveforms. Once "loads of waveforms" are added to Hive I will continue to explore this algorithm and if it survives a bunch of critical checks (e.g. CPU usage, ease of use), I'll happily post some examples.
Osc hard sync would be a really a perfect step in the right directionUrs wrote:The special thing about Hive is the way you get so much out of so little.
If there ever was a textbook on "The Design Of A Perfect Softsynth", it would appear the designers of Sylenth have followed it letter by letter (but the chapter on PWM was ripped out by someone else). So my incentive was "how can I make it better by throwing things out?". We took things away to make space for tiny little additions. It's all about sharing resources. Two out of four oscillators became subs - full oscillators which "inherit" a few settings from their main osc. The global sections got dumped, so that everything fit into a single page. We removed the restriction of ModMatrix to only selected parameters. We added multipliers. We made the sequencer a regular mod source. We made the effects swappable and filter routing flexible. That kind of stuff.
I think we ended up with maybe 10% fewer synth parameters than suggested by The Design Of A Perfect Softsynth, while still covering 99% of its sounds. But then, Hive does a gazillion sounds which latter can't, due to the extended flexibility.
The reason we made Hive in the first place was to explore fast unison waveform playback with various detune laws for Zebra3 oscillators. So today it makes a lot of sense to add a bit of Zebra3 tech back into Hive - and repurpose it to do something unique and utterly useful. I'm very excited about this. In fact, I can hardly sleep lately. In a few days we'll be able to fully test the new oscillator additions and maybe reveal a bit more about it.
While I certainly got a bit sad over the years that Hive wasn't perceived as an advancement or even "not a u-he synth", I think that might change a little...
Or... because the new shit is already a massive addition.EvilDragon wrote:Probably ain't happening because of the "low CPU" requirement Hive needs to have.
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