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Scotty · Post by **Scotty** » Fri Jun 29, 2018 11:41 pm

JRRSHOP is updating their website and indicate that they will match the Bitwig direct price for the upgrade$129.00 USD and the group coupon should also work. The update hasn't happened as of yet. approx 8 PM EST.

Echoes in the Attic · Post by **Echoes in the Attic** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 8:45 am

Just noticed the offsets section which are clearly modulatable. What does that offset bar say under loop? Looks like Leak or something. Obviously that’s not it.

SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 9:10 am

dellboy wrote:
Tj Shredder wrote:It looks I should be able to pay in $ instead of €? Would be significantly cheaper... But I am a German resident... Or is the € price including and the $ excluding VAT? The full price seems to differ by 10...
Same here in the UK.

£42 dearer than paying by dollars.

That's 47 euros or $55.40 dearer.

Makes no sense for a downloadable product.

Yup- Its bloody stupid, you only have to buy the download from a US shop (JJR etc) or even just slect US Forces Overseas (then any address) and you avoid VAT and save a lot almost a 1/3rd - The whole thin bg is a bit of a scam as I don't know how VAT can be included when it is different rates depending on what country in the EU you are in! As an aside, I bought in £ as I am VAT registered so don't pay TAX anyway but the end price ended up being more expensive than the sale price without VAT!! The shop they are using is very suspect, it took of the VAT but then didn't apply the Discount! Check your final receipt/payment! I wish I had just bought in USD!

Hez · Post by **Hez** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 1:11 pm

Echoes in the Attic wrote:Just noticed the offsets section which are clearly modulatable. What does that offset bar say under loop? Looks like Leak or something. Obviously that’s not it.

I think it's LEN ie loop length.

Echoes in the Attic · Post by **Echoes in the Attic** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 4:09 pm

Hez wrote:
Echoes in the Attic wrote:Just noticed the offsets section which are clearly modulatable. What does that offset bar say under loop? Looks like Leak or something. Obviously that’s not it.
I think it's LEN ie loop length.

Ah yes, nice.

I wonder if any of the new options under the waveform are a loop fade. I can’t see them improving the sampler without that crucial control.

Hez · Post by **Hez** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 4:19 pm

Echoes in the Attic wrote: Ah yes, nice.

I wonder if any of the new options under the waveform are a loop fade. I can’t see them improving the sampler without that crucial control.

I really hope so, loop offset sliders are basically useless without crossfade as you're unlikely to land on a nice zero crossing, especially if you're modulating the loop length in real time.

SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 6:37 pm

Hez wrote:
LimEboy wrote:Just posting an ai-enhanced photo of the new sampler

Ooh nice one, so sample start, loop start and loop end are the 3 sliders.

No idea what the top left knob is in that case.

And that icon next to the position offsets definitely looks like a freeze icon to me...

Yup- most things are the same (different layout) other than that extra knob at the top, a 'speed' control (unless I missed that on the current sampler there is only pitch control?) If you have speed and pitch control you have time-stretch?

There is what looks like a freeze control (not sure about the green blob on the display below it- the part of a wave frozen for granular? There is also a lot of space by the new speed control....perhaps more to come....but it looks like some sort of granular to me.

SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 6:40 pm

I also think the (speed) knob may say Re-Pitch' above it and that option may be a drop down (to the right?) - so you can change the speed but maintain the pitch or not...

mholloway · Post by **mholloway** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 6:48 pm

To me it's very clear that the text above the Speed knob says Re-Pitch, and has a down arrow next to it which would mean a selection menu.

So what this tells us: time-stretch with multiple modes. The currently selected mode is Re-Pitch, which simply offers a Speed control (maybe more to come...). Perhaps one of the other modes is Granular...

SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 8:08 pm

mholloway wrote:To me it's very clear that the text above the Speed knob says Re-Pitch, and has a down arrow next to it which would mean a selection menu.

So what this tells us: time-stretch with multiple modes. The currently selected mode is Re-Pitch, which simply offers a Speed control (maybe more to come...). Perhaps one of the other modes is Granular...

If there is a speed control and a pitch control then that's time-stretching right? (if you can speed it up and alter the pitch to stay constant rather than go higher...etc) so if one is re-pitch, the other option should be fix pitch (or whatever they call it!) - the only reason there is space next to the knob is that it is a simple mode, if you select a different mode (like granular

) there is space I think for 3 knobs....nothing else makes sense

Echoes in the Attic · Post by **Echoes in the Attic** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 8:24 pm

SLiC wrote:
mholloway wrote:To me it's very clear that the text above the Speed knob says Re-Pitch, and has a down arrow next to it which would mean a selection menu.

So what this tells us: time-stretch with multiple modes. The currently selected mode is Re-Pitch, which simply offers a Speed control (maybe more to come...). Perhaps one of the other modes is Granular...
If there is a speed control and a pitch control then that's time-stretching right? (if you can speed it up and alter the pitch to stay constant rather than go higher...etc) so if one is re-pitch, the other option should be fix pitch (or whatever they call it!) - the only reason there is space next to the knob is that it is a simple mode, if you select a different mode (like granular ) there is space I think for 3 knobs....nothing else makes sense

Yeah I like this hypothesis.

ejgallego · Post by **ejgallego** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:05 am

2.4 is feeling pretty pretty close !!

astey · Post by **astey** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 8:47 am

One line above, there are play modes: loop, reverse and ping pong. and a ms display for crossfade?

Redukt · Post by **Redukt** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 9:51 pm

JRR shop is selling upgrades for 129$ - it says upgrade from V1 though, can anyone confirm this can be used for renewals as well?

https://www.jrrshop.com/bitwig-studio-v ... -studio-v1

Scotty · Post by **Scotty** » Tue Jul 03, 2018 12:27 pm

$116 from JRRSHOP with the group discount ... that should eliminate any "too expensive" complaints ... including mine. - Scotty

Redukt wrote:JRR shop is selling upgrades for 129$ - it says upgrade from V1 though, can anyone confirm this can be used for renewals as well?

https://www.jrrshop.com/bitwig-studio-v ... -studio-v1

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