Melda Production vs Sound Radix quality?

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Winstontaneous wrote:
onerob wrote:
I'm out.
I think Melda stuff is great and once you get a bundle, you're in for life.
Unless you want to sell, then there's a 20% transfer fee. :hihi:
I read this argument over and over again.

Why should you ever want to sell them? Melda has a bigger vision in mind. Nearly every plugin can be bound to the MXXX, what is a huge (and totally unmatched) modular effects system with several processing lanes, the possibility to feedback each module and with "endless" routing options. There is NOTHING comparable out there on the market. If you are into sound-sculpting you won´t find an adequate alternative. This thing is so huge and amazing in options AND soundwise, you litterly can dive a lifetime into it. You have a lifetime update warrenty and if you are an owner of any bundle you will get all upcoming new plugins a lifetime long for free too, if they belong to that bundle. If you own the CompleteBundle you will never ever have to think again about buying new plugins. There is simply no need for that. Except of course you e.g. need a certain wavetable synth or a very specialized granular tool, like Glitchmachines build or something like this. But have in mind if you own MXXX (or MXXXCore with many optional modules), you can build nearly everything you can imagine by your own. There are no limitations. Who knows Melda plugins knows that each and every parameter of each single plugin can be modulated. What else could you really need? And please leave these "windowed" and workflow-shit discussion out once for all. You have to learn a system if you use Melda, but that is so rewarding when once understood. And it´s so logical. Thing is, if you use Melda you will come to the point you start to miss features and possibilities in nearly all other plugins on the market. :party:

Joyful modulation :tu:

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To me Melda's products are like the McDonalds of the Audio world, they're good enough,
and often fast and convenient, but I wouldn't want to have to eat there everyday.
And certainly when I crave only the finest ingredients, I'm definitely not going to look for
them at McDonalds. That's not to say McD's doesn't use the fine ingredients either, it's
more about the way they are cooked.

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pekbro wrote:To me Melda's products are like the McDonalds of the Audio world, they're good enough,
and often fast and convenient, but I wouldn't want to have to eat there everyday.
And certainly when I crave only the finest ingredients, I'm definitely not going to look for
them at McDonalds. That's not to say McD's doesn't use the fine ingredients either, it's
more about the way they are cooked.
Hi. Can you name it a bit more specific? I can't think of a more versatile system as MXXX at the moment. And soundwise ... no wishes left. Love the rotaries, filters are good. MPowesynth has fantastic sounding OSCs and and and. Why is this just MC Donalds? McDonald's is generic. Melda is so deep and creative.

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pekbro wrote:To me Melda's products are like the McDonalds of the Audio world, they're good enough,
and often fast and convenient, but I wouldn't want to have to eat there everyday.
And certainly when I crave only the finest ingredients, I'm definitely not going to look for
them at McDonalds. That's not to say McD's doesn't use the fine ingredients either, it's
more about the way they are cooked.
Why are you only talking about food? Maybe you need to take a break from your zero diet? :D But when we stay in the strange food analogy then Melda is the cookware. It depends on your abilities and creativity what comes out of it.

Unskilled users are easily overwhelmed and confused by the power of the plugins. And endlessly grumble in forums about how they dislike the GUI. Skilled users just use the plugins and sooner or later end up with the MCompleteBundle.

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pekbro wrote:To me Melda's products are like the McDonalds of the Audio world, they're good enough,
and often fast and convenient, but I wouldn't want to have to eat there everyday.
McDonalds of the audio world has to be something like Soundspot. Looks enticing enough but not all that good for you.

Melda is more lentils - tools for making nourishing food if you know what you're doing and don't mind working with something to get a decent meal.

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I personally don't see them as being particularly deep or creative, utilitarian definitely,
and certainly versatile. But largely, uniform and mechanical in design. Versatility is great,
but to say that it supersedes the experience, artistry and engineering talent of the rest
of the plugin industry is ridiculous to say the least. I like them, don't get me wrong, but
there are MANY others I like equally or better. To rely on them solely, imo, would be setting
your sights pretty low, especially as it would place the burden almost entirely on your
own abilities. Or in the least, it would isolate you from some of the most brilliant talents
in the audio industry.
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nichttuntun wrote:Why should you ever want to sell them? Melda has a bigger vision in mind. Nearly every plugin can be bound to the MXXX, what is a huge (and totally unmatched) modular effects system with several processing lanes, the possibility to feedback each module and with "endless" routing options. There is NOTHING comparable out there on the market. If you are into sound-sculpting you won´t find an adequate alternative. This thing is so huge and amazing in options AND soundwise, you litterly can dive a lifetime into it. You have a lifetime update warrenty and if you are an owner of any bundle you will get all upcoming new plugins a lifetime long for free too, if they belong to that bundle. If you own the CompleteBundle you will never ever have to think again about buying new plugins. There is simply no need for that. Except of course you e.g. need a certain wavetable synth or a very specialized granular tool, like Glitchmachines build or something like this. But have in mind if you own MXXX (or MXXXCore with many optional modules), you can build nearly everything you can imagine by your own. There are no limitations. Who knows Melda plugins knows that each and every parameter of each single plugin can be modulated. What else could you really need? And please leave these "windowed" and workflow-shit discussion out once for all. You have to learn a system if you use Melda, but that is so rewarding when once understood. And it´s so logical. Thing is, if you use Melda you will come to the point you start to miss features and possibilities in nearly all other plugins on the market. :party:

Joyful modulation :tu:
I hope melda pays good for your many love statements :wink: Or are you Vojtech himself? :clown: It's really funny how you're the impersonated melda fanboy with all its annoying sides that were discussed in many other threads too. Same with "akeia" for talking about unskilled users. Yes the whole audio world but the melda users is unskilled... We're all dumb chimpanses waiting for melda our lord and savior :lol: :lol: :lol:

Why would you sell any plugin? Maybe because you're done doing music. Or at one point you decide against the companies philosophies. Or you start disliking their community :wink: Maybe the company f***s up something over and over again and you won't take the risk of bugs or missing backward compatibility anymore. Maybe you just start liking other plugins way more.

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RobinWood wrote:
nichttuntun wrote:Why should you ever want to sell them? Melda has a bigger vision in mind. Nearly every plugin can be bound to the MXXX, what is a huge (and totally unmatched) modular effects system with several processing lanes, the possibility to feedback each module and with "endless" routing options. There is NOTHING comparable out there on the market. If you are into sound-sculpting you won´t find an adequate alternative. This thing is so huge and amazing in options AND soundwise, you litterly can dive a lifetime into it. You have a lifetime update warrenty and if you are an owner of any bundle you will get all upcoming new plugins a lifetime long for free too, if they belong to that bundle. If you own the CompleteBundle you will never ever have to think again about buying new plugins. There is simply no need for that. Except of course you e.g. need a certain wavetable synth or a very specialized granular tool, like Glitchmachines build or something like this. But have in mind if you own MXXX (or MXXXCore with many optional modules), you can build nearly everything you can imagine by your own. There are no limitations. Who knows Melda plugins knows that each and every parameter of each single plugin can be modulated. What else could you really need? And please leave these "windowed" and workflow-shit discussion out once for all. You have to learn a system if you use Melda, but that is so rewarding when once understood. And it´s so logical. Thing is, if you use Melda you will come to the point you start to miss features and possibilities in nearly all other plugins on the market. :party:

Joyful modulation :tu:
I hope melda pays good for your many love statements :wink: Or are you Vojtech himself? :clown: It's really funny how you're the impersonated melda fanboy with all its annoying sides that were discussed in many other threads too. Same with "akeia" for talking about unskilled users. Yes the whole audio world but the melda users is unskilled... We're all dumb chimpanses waiting for melda our lord and savior :lol: :lol: :lol:

Why would you sell any plugin? Maybe because you're done doing music. Or at one point you decide against the companies philosophies. Or you start disliking their community :wink: Maybe the company f***s up something over and over again and you won't take the risk of bugs or missing backward compatibility anymore. Maybe you just start liking other plugins way more.
Robin,
I am into collecting synth, synthesis, sound- design, playing in bands, having projects since early 90th.

Concerning my enthusiasm towards MXXX...Watch Simon Stockhausens (yes he is the son of Karl-Heinz) YT videos on mangling sounds with MELDA MXXX. He is as pleased with it as I am. Decide on your own.

I do understand that your reasons for selling (any plugins) could become relevant in certain cases for certain people.

You will understand that I don't think it is relevant to answer your further made assumptions.

Joyful modulation


P.S.
maybe you like to point out one single plugin which comes close to the power and the creative possibilities of MXXX?

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Same with "akeia" for talking about unskilled users. Yes the whole audio world but the melda users is unskilled... We're all dumb chimpanses waiting for melda our lord and savior :lol: :lol: :lol:
A lot of companies sell plugins that do only one thing. And are easy to understand. That is fine with me. But bashing more complex products without trying to understand them is not fine with me. It is only a sign of the own shortcomings of the writer.

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Anyone know of any new alternatives to SurferEQ? Has anyone tried both it and the Melda version and have a preference towards sound quality?

Because I really hate the sound of SurferEQ2. Even statically (no pitch tracking), it sounds thin and phasey compared to something like Pro-Q3 with the exact same settings. I was using it eveywhere until I decided to compare them. Now every time I compare them I prefer to just keep static settings in Pro-Q3.

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Here's a tutorial showing how to use pitch tracking in MAutoDynamicEq.



That pitch tracking modulator is available in all Melda plugins (that have modulators) and can be used for any other parameter as well. So it's super flexible.

If you have MIDI, you can use that to modulate the bands as well.

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