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Dasheesh · Post by **Dasheesh** » Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:12 pm

pretty helpful information and explaination WAGS, thanks.

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:13 pm

What I want to know is if Vocaloid 5 is compatible with previous Vocaloid voices.

For example, Premium is more expensive because it comes with 8 voices instead of 4. Now 2 of them, Diva and Songman, I already have in Vocaloid 4. Will they still work in 5 or have they been reengineered to be compatible with Vocaloid 5?

And then what about older Vocaloids? Will they work? If not, this presents a problem unless I simply use Vocaloid 4 for older voices.

I see an email to Yamaha is coming.

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:16 pm

Im sure the product page states support for v3 and V4 voices, and the 'premium' version seems to include a couple of V4 voices.

yup, as i thought:

Use Voice Banks from VOCALOID3 and 4 without Modification

Voice banks from VOCALOID3 and 4 can be used in VOCALOID5 without modification. You can use VOCALOID5 to rediscover your favorite singing voice.

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:21 pm

whyterabbyt wrote:Im sure the product page states support for v3 and V4 voices, and the 'premium' version seems to include a couple of V4 voices.

yup, as i thought:
Use Voice Banks from VOCALOID3 and 4 without Modification

Voice banks from VOCALOID3 and 4 can be used in VOCALOID5 without modification. You can use VOCALOID5 to rediscover your favorite singing voice.

So it does appear that anything from Vocaloid 2 and back might present a problem. I'm not sure what Vocaloids I have from 1 and 2, if any, but I'll check. I'm sure it's no more than 1 or 2 tops.

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:26 pm

wagtunes wrote:
whyterabbyt wrote:Im sure the product page states support for v3 and V4 voices, and the 'premium' version seems to include a couple of V4 voices.

yup, as i thought:
Use Voice Banks from VOCALOID3 and 4 without Modification

Voice banks from VOCALOID3 and 4 can be used in VOCALOID5 without modification. You can use VOCALOID5 to rediscover your favorite singing voice.
So it does appear that anything from Vocaloid 2 and back might present a problem. I'm not sure what Vocaloids I have from 1 and 2, if any, but I'll check. I'm sure it's no more than 1 or 2 tops.

Maybe; the V1 and V2 convertor was dropped from when V4 came out wasnt it?

(egosearch shows me thinking that before: http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 2#p6216952)

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:26 pm

whyterabbyt wrote:Im sure the product page states support for v3 and V4 voices, and the 'premium' version seems to include a couple of V4 voices.

yup, as i thought:
Use Voice Banks from VOCALOID3 and 4 without Modification

Voice banks from VOCALOID3 and 4 can be used in VOCALOID5 without modification. You can use VOCALOID5 to rediscover your favorite singing voice.

Okay, I just checked. My oldest Vocaloid is Vocaloid 3 so I'm good.

Upgrade isn't bad for Standard considering it comes with 4 additional voices that I don't have (normally cost $100 each alone) and is only $149 upgrading from Vocaloid 4. I paid $100 for the Vocaloid 4 engine alone without any voices. So this is a really great deal.

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:28 pm

whyterabbyt wrote:
wagtunes wrote:
whyterabbyt wrote:Im sure the product page states support for v3 and V4 voices, and the 'premium' version seems to include a couple of V4 voices.

yup, as i thought:
Use Voice Banks from VOCALOID3 and 4 without Modification

Voice banks from VOCALOID3 and 4 can be used in VOCALOID5 without modification. You can use VOCALOID5 to rediscover your favorite singing voice.
So it does appear that anything from Vocaloid 2 and back might present a problem. I'm not sure what Vocaloids I have from 1 and 2, if any, but I'll check. I'm sure it's no more than 1 or 2 tops.
Maybe; the V1 and V2 convertor was dropped from when V4 came out wasnt it?

(egosearch shows me thinking that before: http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 2#p6216952)

I'm not sure. I didn't bother checking because at the time I bought Vocaloid 4 (my first ever) I only had a few libraries that I purchased with it and they were all V4s. But yeah, it's quite possible that 1s and 2s never worked with V4.

All I know is they sounded so bad I didn't bother getting them.

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:30 pm

Delta Sign wrote:I don't think anyone said anything bad about Vocaloid, we just said it doesn't sound human at all, which is even a good thing in my opinion. I love sounds that are somewhere between synthetic and acoustic.

Getting back to this. I've had people flat out tell me to my face that they refuse to listen to any of my music as long as I use Vocaloid.

I'd say that's pretty much bad enough.

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:35 pm

Okay, this is Yohio from Sweden, a 17 year old singer at the time of the Vocaloid creation for him.

And here's a Vocaloid track I did with his likeness.

https://soundcloud.com/steven-wagenheim ... her-report

Obviously a huge difference. Like I said, no dynamics. And you're not getting that from V5 either. But if the robotic voice goes, that's a big leap.

donkey tugger · Post by **donkey tugger** » Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:44 pm

There's a difference between having a 'philosophical' (for want of a better term..) objection to something on the grounds of 'lack of emotion', 'artistry' etc, and not liking something because of the way it sounds. I use sampled drums, strings, etc, and would have no problem with machine singers, except that they sound shite. A bit less shite now....

Halonmusic · Post by **Halonmusic** » Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:50 pm

Aloysius wrote:They seem to have a bartering system in place:

Vocaloid5 Standard, Upgrade Edition 15,000 hen.
Vocaloid5 Premium, Upgrade Edition 24,000 hen.

That's a lot of hens.

Dasheesh · Post by **Dasheesh** » Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:52 pm

that’s a pretty good “video killed the radio star” wags.

but can it get dirty? can it get soultry? can it sound like sex?

Dasheesh · Post by **Dasheesh** » Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:56 pm

can it do beyoncé wags. is there a BEA setting?

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Thu Jul 12, 2018 5:00 pm

donkey tugger wrote:There's a difference between having a 'philosophical' (for want of a better term..) objection to something on the grounds of 'lack of emotion', 'artistry' etc, and not liking something because of the way it sounds. I use sampled drums, strings, etc, and would have no problem with machine singers, except that they sound shite. A bit less shite now....

Well, I guess this is a matter of opinion too because I think some samples sound like shite and yet people use them.

donkey tugger · Post by **donkey tugger** » Thu Jul 12, 2018 5:03 pm

wagtunes wrote:
donkey tugger wrote:There's a difference between having a 'philosophical' (for want of a better term..) objection to something on the grounds of 'lack of emotion', 'artistry' etc, and not liking something because of the way it sounds. I use sampled drums, strings, etc, and would have no problem with machine singers, except that they sound shite. A bit less shite now....
Well, I guess this is a matter of opinion too because I think some samples sound like shite and yet people use them.

Of course it is. As I said, I have no deep seated objection to Vocaloid etc, just don't like the sound of it, you may love it.

Fire your singers folks, Vocaloid 5 is here!