Eq's wth auto-gain

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KVRian
693 posts since 29 Jul, 2008

Post Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:53 pm

I'm on the hunt but feeling like I'm missing some, so far;

Slick eq's
Fab-filter pro-q
Red-line eq
Melda production eq's

Anything else? I know some gives manual values to adjust gain but I'm looking for instant adjusting ones.

imrae
KVRist
407 posts since 2 Jul, 2010

Re: Eq's wth auto-gain

Post Mon Jul 16, 2018 12:08 am

Nova & Nova GE
Toneboosters Eq 3 & Eq 4 (per-band option)
Luftikus

Ah_Dziz
KVRAF
2341 posts since 2 Jul, 2005

Re: Eq's wth auto-gain

Post Mon Jul 16, 2018 12:21 am

I’m assuming you mean automatic adjustment of the output level relative to the loss of energy removed by the filter and not a dynamic per band adjustment based on the input. This isn’t super common And most of the plugins that I’ve tried that do this often get it wrong or are constantly moving the output level around.

Anyhow I’d go with Melda dynamic EQ if you feel it’s that it’s a useful feature. You’ll also get a very good EQ with static and dynamic modes that are extremely flexible. Plus Their auto gain thing works okay.
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KVRian
693 posts since 29 Jul, 2008

Re: Eq's wth auto-gain

Post Mon Jul 16, 2018 5:22 am

Ah_Dziz wrote:I....
Hey Ah_Dziz, yeah I need a steady output for mastering thanks for clarifying.

When trying the free eq from melda, the agc caused the audio to work as if I inserted and expander. Probably it was designed for short, specific parts of an audio file but because I keep jumping around when listening its not going to be the most comfortable option. Too bad as I really like Melda stuff :tu:

heavymetalmixer
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246 posts since 8 Jan, 2017

Re: Eq's wth auto-gain

Post Mon Jul 16, 2018 12:18 pm

1) TDR NOVA
2) TDR SlickEQ
3) Luftikus
4) Melda MEquializer

Now, I wanna clear two points:
1) The MEqualizer autogain sucks hard, just like it was already stated in this thread.

2) From experience I don't recommend auto-gain unless you're mastering. Why? Let me put two examples:

a) You cut some lows with a HPF so there's more space for the kick and bass in that area. What happens now? The plugin turns the volume of the track up making the rest of the frequency spectrum louder, so this tracks adds way more mud than before and it could even fight with many other tracks.

b) You add som top-end to an acoustic guitar so it sounds "more polished", and it already has a very nice warm and body to it. What happens now? The plugin turns down the track making it brigt but thin and "weak" when you play the mix.


EQ is about balacing frequencies through the entire mix, so you need that every frequency range you manipulate stays the way you want. It's better if you don't forget the rol of every track in the mix and before you do any process you use the mixing engineer's best tools:

The fader and the gain/trim plugin.


PD: NOVA is my go-to EQ.

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thecontrolcentre
KVRAF
23024 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from the wilds of wanny

Re: Eq's wth auto-gain

Post Mon Jul 16, 2018 12:44 pm

Have a look at Brainworx bx_DynEQ v2 ... I've had some good results with it.

https://www.plugin-alliance.com/en/prod ... eq_v2.html

Chandlerhimself
KVRian
830 posts since 19 Dec, 2013 from Japan

Re: Eq's wth auto-gain

Post Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:40 pm

I’d go with Melda. Use the set feature and not the auto gain compensation. The AGC will move the volune up and down while the music is playing which isn’t what you want most of the time. The set feature will analyze about 3 sec of audio and the set the output, so they are equal in volume. It works fairly well, but don’t expect miracles.

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Frantz
KVRAF
4812 posts since 18 Jul, 2008 from New York

Re: Eq's wth auto-gain

Post Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:03 pm


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KVRAF
5675 posts since 16 Aug, 2006

Re: Eq's wth auto-gain

Post Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:05 pm

DMG Audio: EQuillibrium.

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KVRian
1387 posts since 15 Feb, 2006 from Berkeley, CA

Re: Eq's wth auto-gain

Post Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:54 pm

Acon Equalize, too. It's a good feature (I especially like auto-gain EQ on reverb sends) but definitely not something I want active all the time.

keithwood
KVRist
58 posts since 24 Dec, 2015 from Bristol, UK

Re: Eq's wth auto-gain

Post Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:17 pm

I'm the developer behind Crave EQ - I just added auto gain compensation along with a couple of other new features a few of days ago so I hope you don't mind me giving it a mention :-) The technique I used applies a gain adjustment based on the EQ curve and not the source material so the gain only changes if you tweak the filter bands. I think this is the more common approach although each developer's implementation and the resulting gain is likely to vary a little as there is no standard way to do it. As others have pointed out, an alternative is an EQ where the gain compensation varies based on the source material. Happy to share more information on how I approached gain compensation if anyone is interested. Hope you find something you're looking for anyway.

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KVRian
693 posts since 29 Jul, 2008

Re: Eq's wth auto-gain

Post Thu Jul 19, 2018 12:35 pm

hey everyone just wanted to say thank you for all the suggestions.

I'm currently on a vacation but did check some plug-ins with a vst analyzer (I still have the old buddle one).

One thing I noticed was as a fan of free soneq and voxengo harmonieq though bell filters not much of a problem couldn't replicate some of the shelve curves. The TDR as mechanics still seems best but haven't been satisfied yet with sounds. Anyway, as said I haven't tried them all yet but curious so suggestions are still welcome.

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Mr. Spock
KVRist
57 posts since 4 May, 2016 from germany

Re: Eq's wth auto-gain

Post Fri Jul 20, 2018 7:37 am

Melda's auto gain is horrible. TDR and Luftikus work really well (I use this function with all TDR EQ's all the time). And I think it's a great function especially for mastering, because if you're "almost there" but want to add another EQ with almost equal output when adjusted,
without feeding the limiter more than before, it gives you a pretty good impression of the change in spectrum.

frizzbee
KVRist
196 posts since 11 Jan, 2015

Re: Eq's wth auto-gain

Post Fri Jul 20, 2018 7:58 am

don't go for melda. it's auto-gain feature didn't work with anything here. fabfilter or toneboosters are always a very good 1st choice.

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