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starflakeprj · Post by **starflakeprj** » Sat Aug 25, 2018 10:46 am

For those interested, Mattias posted in the Propellerhead blog yesterday that Reason 10.2 will be released the 26th of September, with a few interesting new features. Public beta testing is currently open.

https://www.propellerheads.se/blog/reas ... lp-us-test

Seems there is no VST optimization coming in this update, but this is promised later this year (according to the blog post).

Psuper · Post by **Psuper** » Sat Aug 25, 2018 4:18 pm

In other news, every DAW out there gets incremental patches with far more significant changes every single month.

Just one example of many:
https://www.reaper.fm/download-old.php

Imagine how crowded this forum would be if we created a post for every patch in every DAW, should we be doing this?

starflakeprj · Post by **starflakeprj** » Sat Aug 25, 2018 4:33 pm

Oh, this guy is back again...

Are you continuously searching for "Reason" in this forum just pay these threads a visit? I feel sorry for you, I really do.

Reason is not updated as often as Reaper, so I don't understand what your problem is about a post about an update. In case you haven't noticed, last post about Reason in this section (Hosts & Applications...) was July the 18th, and it happens to be yours.

You are welcome to leave this thread again, anytime.

sin night · Post by **sin night** » Sat Aug 25, 2018 5:49 pm

These features are cool and useful, especially the multilane edit (which is something I use since forever in Cubase) and the "adjust multiple fader" (can we call it "link channels"?). I rarely use Reason, but these features are really welcome. Thanks for the heads up.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Sat Aug 25, 2018 5:53 pm

Psuper wrote:In other news, every DAW out there gets incremental patches with far more significant changes every single month.

Just one example of many:
https://www.reaper.fm/download-old.php

LOL. Good one. Do you know how many "hey, we changed 2 lines of code" things are listed in the Reaper changelogs? There are far LESS significant changes in Reaper than in any other DAW. It's just that no other DAW developer writes all those tiny little changes in his changelog.

Really, man, if you want to troll, do it right, and give some valid examples for your claims.

jens · Post by **jens** » Sat Aug 25, 2018 6:29 pm

Psuper wrote:some blurb

Hello troll, are you hungry?

jacqueslacouth · Post by **jacqueslacouth** » Sat Aug 25, 2018 6:39 pm

I for one am really happy to see the direction Reason is going. In spite of the noise from the odd hater, from my perspective at least, the Props DO listen to their users and have been making good progress as a fully fledged DAW in recent times. I understand that it is not the perfect tool for everyone (what is?) but as someone who basically gave up on Reason some years ago, the latest version has at least got my interest in the product sparked again and it actually gets opened and used now.

Sailor16 · Post by **Sailor16** » Sat Aug 25, 2018 7:37 pm

jacqueslacouth wrote:I for one am really happy to see the direction Reason is going. In spite of the noise from the odd hater, from my perspective at least, the Props DO listen to their users and have been making good progress as a fully fledged DAW in recent times. I understand that it is not the perfect tool for everyone (what is?) but as someone who basically gave up on Reason some years ago, the latest version has at least got my interest in the product sparked again and it actually gets opened and used now.

Yes, this is true for me also. And it's quite the paradox, but when VST support finally came to Reason, that made me buy even more Rack Extensions because I could more clearly see the benefits of the RE format for my particular workflow (need to sync the exact same project on my laptop and desktop studio computer through the cloud). Going to grab some more RE's now when it's "End of summer sale"...

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Sat Aug 25, 2018 7:51 pm

Psuper wrote:In other news, every DAW out there gets incremental patches with far more significant changes every single month.

Just one example of many:
https://www.reaper.fm/download-old.php

Imagine how crowded this forum would be if we created a post for every patch in every DAW, should we be doing this?

umm...this thread is not about reaper, please do not derail. Reporting patch releases is a part of this forum and always has been.

beatmangler443 · Post by **beatmangler443** » Sat Aug 25, 2018 8:35 pm

Their putting those new features over VST optimizations????

Greenstorm33 · Post by **Greenstorm33** » Sat Aug 25, 2018 9:15 pm

beatmangler443 wrote:Their putting those new features over VST optimizations????

No, the vst optimizations require a huge overhaul of the application so they're releasing these relatively minor updates separately rather than waiting for the optimizations to be ready and releasing everything then.

beatmangler443 · Post by **beatmangler443** » Sat Aug 25, 2018 9:19 pm

Greenstorm33 wrote:
beatmangler443 wrote:Their putting those new features over VST optimizations????
No, the vst optimizations require a huge overhaul of the application so they're releasing these relatively minor updates separately rather than waiting for the optimizations to be ready and releasing everything then.

Gotcha.

EnGee · Post by **EnGee** » Sat Aug 25, 2018 9:38 pm

Nice improvements, but I don't see midi files review in the browser!!
I have been waiting for ages for this. It's an essential part of laying the drums for me as I'm not a drummer.
Actually, this why I still use Cubase and Reaper more!

xbitz · Post by **xbitz** » Sun Aug 26, 2018 7:03 am

if they able to develop at least the 75% of the "what people would like to see" in the next version

For fun I took the opportunity to go through this thread and list all things that are, in your opinion, REALLY necessary for Reason 11. It's quite the long list of really necessary things. Pretty sure I can't promise we'll get all this done in Reason 11.

• Improved performance
• Combinator with more knobs and modulation
• Text input for values
• 4K display
• Work areas side by side
• Grouping tracks
• Multi clip edit
• Track freeze
• Select vertical slice
• Keyboard shortcuts
• Display VSTs in rack
• Spectrum before/after EQ
• Samples in project folder
• Customizing reset patch
• Change coloring of tracks
• Automatically returning playing cursor
• MIDI chase
• Automation curves
• Bypass in VST window
• OctoRex support for wav
• Loops playing in sync in browser
• Default patch for native/VST plug-ins
• Double click knob to reset
• Unlimited track resizing/zooming
• Faster GUI refresh rate
• Browser navigation via keyboard
• Convert clips to block
• Empty block
• New modules in mixer
• Updated mastering tools
• Europa loads more samples
• Parametric EQ device
• Improved cabling interface
• Group/hide channels
• Ghost clips (editing one edits all copies)
• Analyze audio clips (peak, average etc.)
• Update ReGroove mixer
• Keycommands for grid resolution
• Markers
• Live trigger of blocks
• More skins/themes
• Resizeable GUI
• Control multiple faders in mixer
• Infinite send/returns
• Updated Redrum
• Updated Kong
• Updated Matrix
• Focus edit view (view only device and associated tracks/channels)
• Copy/paste in combinator
• Auto-connect new mix channels to outputs
• Mixer compressor and EQ as devices
• DSP usage statistics
• Post-fader inserts
• Polyphonic aftertouch/pitch bend
• Track folders
• MIDI editor improvements
• Eurorack/modular environment
• VST MIDI support
• Mixer snapshots
• Lyrics window
• Export as MP3
• Put content on external drive
• Punch in/out
• Always-on recording
• MIDI loop recording
• Dynamic snap to grid
• Slice edit threshold control
• More outputs for VST device
• New chorus/flanger
• Multiband compressor
• ReCycle in Reason
• Real-time audio slicing
• Improved remote support with more targets
• Muting individual notes
• Version handling for projects
• Comp mode for MIDI
• Better timestretch
• Apple Loops support
• Root key / chord track
• Gesture support
• Foldable and key maps in MIDI sequencer
• Video support
• Preview MIDI with sleected device
• ReBirth devices
• Crossfades
• Context sensitive multi-tool
• VST3 support
• Hide mixer channels
• Custom keyboard shortcuts
• Zooming in the rack
• VST support in ReWire mode
• View one rack/device group per track
• Better sampler
• Pop-up editor for rack devices, á la VST window
• MIDI data converter
• DJ functionality
• Better organization of plug-ins

- from ReasonTalk

then Reason will able to shine again, otherwise ...

starflakeprj · Post by **starflakeprj** » Sun Aug 26, 2018 8:44 am

Do any of the DAWs available out there have 75% of the features above? Why does Reason have to get at least 75% of the above when no other DAW does? Yeah, I know, some of the requested features above would be unique to Reason, but I think you get my point.

Reason already has a pretty unique features set as of today, and would "shine" with even 1/5 of the above. Myself I would be happy enough with just a few more features.

4k/resizable gui
Track folders/grouping
Better CPU handling/Multi-core
VST optimization
More midi features
More automation features/curves
Showing keys pressed in the piano bar
New updated Combinator

I don't understand why some people need Reason to be the most feature rich DAW, the same pressure does not seem to apply to other DAWs. To me Reason is already unique, and I don't need it to have ALL features, because no other DAW has.

Propellerhead Reason 10.2 on the way (26th of Sep.)