Channelizing in Waveform 9

[dlandis]

I'm pretty sure I'm missing the obvious, but is there a way to channelize a track so that when one assigns the midi input it automatically takes the input of the device and routs it to a given channel for that track (without having to channelize every time one assigns the midi input)? The reason I'm asking this is to save a step in multi-timbral situations. BTW, thanks to zzzoom for his suggestion video to answer my previous question about setting up Kontakt as a multi-timbral VST. The video answered my questions.  
Thanks in advance!

Dan

[zzz00m]

Well in Tracktion based tracks, there is just a track object. No MIDI tracks, no instrument tracks, no audio tracks ... just tracks.

The clip objects that you insert on tracks determine what the tracks are used for. Audio clips, MIDI clips, step clips ...

The track inputs are assigned to tracks rather than clips. You can set the MIDI channel used for that track input using the track input properties. This affects the MIDI channel sent by the controller that you use to send MIDI data to that track, and the channel that the plugin on that track will respond to when you play your controller.

If you look at the properties view for a MIDI clip (click on the MIDI clip), you will see that the MIDI channel assignment for that specific clip lives in the clip properties, rather than the track input properties. This affects the MIDI channel that the plugin responds to when you play the clip back.

[dlandis]

Hi zzzOOm,

Thanks for writing.

I guess that you're corroborating what I sensed: that each time I set the device for midi input, I have to set the midi channel for the track (when using a multi-timbral instance of a VST instrument with instruments set on different tracks). There isn't a way for Waveform to "remember" what channel you want for each track (which may diminish the advantage of using a multi-timbral instance of, say, Kontakt within Waveform as opposed to just opening a separate instance of Kontakt for each new instrument one desires; I think some have given up with the multi-timbral capabilities of Kontakt for similar reasons in many DAWS. It seems just a hassle for many).

[zzz00m]

If you save your edit, your channel settings are preserved.

You can also save your edit as a template.

Most folks like to start with a familiar setup when working with the same multitimbral, multi-output instruments, so templates are a huge time saver in a DAW when starting a new project.

[klangbastler]

maybe trackpresets will save midi settings?
i don't know if they do, just a shot in the dark, have to try myself ...

[dlandis]

Hi guys:

I'll fiddle around with track presets as well, but what zzzOOm said kind of made me realize that if one could save a MIDI channel with the track, it would defeat the idea of being able to record anything anywhere (because it would lock it in).

It's kind of hard though to see how templates would help channelize (largely because of what I just noted, though I intend to see if anything there helps). I'll be the first to admit that I could be missing something, however.

Thanks for the comments; I'll explore a bit....

Dan

[zzz00m]

I am not sure what you want to "channelize". The possible solutions would probably become more clear if it were understood what you were trying to accomplish.

MIDI controller hardware can be assigned to send data on specific channels.
Track inputs can be assigned to route data to specific MIDI channels.
MIDI clips can be assigned to route to specific MIDI channels.
Multitimbral virtual instruments like Kontakt can have internal instrument slots assigned to receive MIDI data on specific channels.

It's all very flexible, and virtually anything can be routed anywhere. The instrument slots in the multi instrument will respond to MIDI events on their assigned channel, regardless of the source, be it a controller or a MIDI clip.

[BluesMuse]

First off- I'm brand new to Waveform (Labor Day sale). Waveform is rather unique among the DAWS I have used. I think you are looking to do the same thing I was. I wanted to use a multi MIDI in/ audio out VST (Kontakt etc) and not mess with re-channeling the tracks to accommodate the Kontakt inputs above channel 1. I like to drag MIDI sections from track to track, and re-channeling is a pain. Also, my keyboard buries channel out settings deep in the menus, so channel one is where I live.

Assuming you have your Kontakt (or whatever) set up in a rack wrapper, with 8 tracks receiving the 16 stereo audio outs; add the Waveform plugin "MIDI Patch Bay" as the first device in tracks 2-8 (ahead of the copied Kontakt Rack Wrappers). Track one is OK because it is channel one already. Set each instance of MIDI Patch Bay to have channel 1:x where x= the MIDI channel # that you want sent to. This will take your clips created for channel one in any of the "2-8" tracks and re-channel them correctly.

[bojanboyss]

Also new user here from Labor Day sale
There are probably many ways to do it, if I understood correctly the question. Here is one method from another thread:

You can do this, but it's not immediately obvious how.

You can only assign a midi input to one track at a time, but you can create as many Virtual midi inputs as you want (all getting input from the same physical MIDI keyboard) and assign them to as many tracks as you like.

Go to settings, midi devices and click "Create New Virtual Midi Input", give it a name, then click on it, and where it says "Select MIDI Inputs", choose your midi keyboard. Repeat for as many tracks as you want to record to at any one time. After you do that once, they're available to use for all your future projects.

Then assign a different midi input to each track you want to record to. You can also filter virtual inputs based on midi channel, and so on, so you record Channel 10 to Track 10, if that's how you set up your inputs, so you always record drums to that channel, by changing the midi channel on the keyboard. Or just leave them all unfiltered, if that's what you want to do.

Thread: Assign same MIDI input to different tracks - Waveform 8
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... &p=7049111

[bojanboyss]

Thats convenient method if you can choose/change channels from the hardware. But if you cant then maybe pizmidi plugin midiChannelize can be of some use