MSoundFactory Wishlist

[djmani]

WHEN WILL THE GRAFICKS BE FIXKED I CAN'T WAIT TILL MELDA WAKES UP AND FOLLOWs THE TRENDS.

I don't know how to make music, maybe a better user interface will make some boring music.
screw using my ears... I make beatz wit my pretty graficks

[djmani]

Unfortunately this looks & feels very uninspiring which is the exact opposit of what I'd expect from a synth.

You have to be inspired by a certain look and a special arrangement of pixels to actually make cool sounds with a VST synth?

A synth (more than any effect) needs to make me wanting to tweak its knobs, to adjust its filters or to experiment with what its capable of. Workflow, conception and aesthetics matters a lot here (of course sound too) since it will be used for a long time in a row and usually in an ongoing back and forth. There are very good examples for synths that are capable of a lot but it's a pita to do anything with them. And there are the opposit synths, capable of a lot and quite easy managable (u-he synths, Avenger, Rapid, Falcon or Synthmaster).

YES, PRETTY grafix makes kewl beats.
screw having talent and knowledgehhg

Your inability to "tweak knobs" and your inability to adapt to multiple workflows due to concept and aesthetics is where you FAIL at life.

this is the problem in the world, everyone wants the easiest path.

YOU and people like you are what is wrong in music production/sound design

a good pool player can use any cue stick.

[steve2KVR]

...(*).../s~

[nichttuntun]

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Will ask you a question. If you want you may answer.

What is it you like to contribute to this thread?

[mevla]

Unfortunately this looks & feels very uninspiring which is the exact opposit of what I'd expect from a synth.

I find that the Melda UI lends itself very nicely to creative inspiration and that, across all Melda plugins. Have a new Melda plugin and already you know your way around. And the default colours are quite soothing for the eye also.

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[masitito]

WHEN WILL THE GRAFICKS BE FIXKED I CAN'T WAIT TILL MELDA WAKES UP AND FOLLOWs THE TRENDS.

Shouting makes you right. Way to go, man.

Masi

[DPhil]

ridiculous bla bla

You missed the point. Didn't expect much, still got disappointed by you.

I find that the Melda UI lends itself very nicely to creative inspiration and that, across all Melda plugins. Have a new Melda plugin and already you know your way around. And the default colours are quite soothing for the eye also.

I'm fine with that. I have an other opinion Had the hope the community would listen, reflect and at least understand the problem most have with melda and will have with this plugin too. But so far there are just some trying to convince the critics they're plain wrong Anyways just judging by the sound itself I heard, there was nothing outstanding yet. Nothing that'd be unique to this synth and still be useful.

[nichttuntun]

I'm fine with that. I have an other opinion Had the hope the community would listen, reflect and at least understand the problem most have with melda and will have with this plugin too. But so far there are just some trying to convince the critics they're plain wrong Anyways just judging by the sound itself I heard, there was nothing outstanding yet. Nothing that'd be unique to this synth and still be useful.

Hi. Can only speak for my part. Don´t want to convince anybody. And I don't think inn terms of wrong and right. I think both are just 2 sides of one coin. It´s just great for me. I use Melda MXXX and that is indeed the "best" efx constructing system ever for me. Having such a system for producing sounds like in MSoundfactory plus the given possibility to put everything together...for me (I love experimental music since I was a kid) thats awesome. Doesn´t have to be the same for someone else of course.

Considering "unique". I think you won´t find special new sounds in the world of synths or in the world in general anymore. Even the things that Simon Stockhausen does - as great as they are...are somehow heard before. It's all just variations of already known stuff. I do a little field recordings and love to use granular sample mangling them. As crazy as some soundscapes may be, I don´t have the feeling they are really unique or awesomely new. Listen to John Cage, Throbbing Gristle (incl. last album), noise artists, Musique Concrete, newer David Sylvian or Scott Walker records. No matter how original and creative they all are in sound creation...there are no real unique sounds today. Such a thing in my opinion is non-existent. There was a time the Einstürzende Neubauten made some unheard things - but only because they build all their sound producing constructions by their own and used such things as turbine. Even some of their real hardware creations reminded of sounds already known from synthesis some times. I think the only way to be unique in music is to find "new" combinations of already existing sounds, noises and musical elements as rhythms, exotic scales and instruments. Similar to art I think you can´t invent something totally new but you can of course cleverly combine already existing elements and make something relatively interesting and lesser used "new" stuff this way.

The thing is I really like to work with Melda stuff because I am familiar with it and the possibilities are enormously deep. Everytime I use it, it surprises me (I do not mean the demos I posted here). When programmed with care and time it can sound excellent but as well (I love that) dirty and experimental as hell, modular and analogish as well. I think I could construct "everything" I like with it.

Don´t charge by the demos solely. They are all done on the fly while I bug tested MSF beta. They are edgy, raw and "unfinished". You´ll have to hear a complete track made with MSF/ MXXX where the sounds are especially designed for live played pre-recorded (midi) composition to judge truly.

Convince the critics:
What critics? MSF isn´t finished. It´s just a starting base. Vojtech said it maybe never finished in the means that there always can be new content for it like in MXXX. So whats there to critizize at the moment? I think there is simply no base for that. It would be like there was constructed just a cellar to build a new house on it and people would already critizise the (non existent) house

Have joy!

[masitito]

It would be like there was constructed just a cellar to build a new house on it and people would already critizise the (non existent) house

That's they way we do it in Vienna. Generally we start with ranting when learn that a new house it going to built

Masi

[nichttuntun]

It would be like there was constructed just a cellar to build a new house on it and people would already critizise the (non existent) house

That's they way we do it in Vienna. Generally we start with ranting when learn that a new house it going to built

Masi

Could be Germany as well. I think people have problems with changes... although changing is the core element of everything.

[nichttuntun]

[nichttuntun]

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s o o o o o o o r r r y y y

[nichttuntun]

double again...sorry

[Chandlerhimself]

Has anyone else had a chance to play with the physical modeling modules yet? I’m having a lot of fun with them. The possibilities have really opened up now and there are tons of things MSF can do now. I talked to Vojtech about adding a modal bank, which would give even more physical modeling options, but I don’t know if he’ll be able to get to it any time soon. I actually made a modal bank myself in MSF, but having one built it would be much more powerful and convenient.

I’m sure people will be happy with this now that tassman is discontinued and there isn’t much available in the physical modeling synth space.

[nichttuntun]

Yes, the string and resonator modules are extremely good sounding. Looking forward for more to come