KVR Audio

mutantdog · Post by **mutantdog** » Wed Sep 19, 2018 9:35 am

Semantics

felis · Post by **felis** » Wed Sep 19, 2018 12:05 pm

krabbencutter wrote:Don't know what you're all speculating about. It's all right there on NI's website. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
MASSIVE X is an addition to the MASSIVE family, and will exist side by side with the original instrument.
They call it an addition to Massive. Not a replacement. Not a successor.
https://www.native-instruments.com/prod ... massive-x/

Yes - I pointed that out in post #11 on the first page. It's an extra/different synth.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed Sep 19, 2018 12:16 pm

They also call it "The rebirth of a legend".

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Wed Sep 19, 2018 12:36 pm

chk071 wrote:They also call it "The rebirth of a legend".

Yes because it can be both a successor and an addition and exist side by side with it, really people should not fall into black and white thinking about this or get so hung up on marketing semantics.

zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Wed Sep 19, 2018 12:37 pm

krabbencutter wrote:Don't know what you're all speculating about. It's all right there on NI's website. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
MASSIVE X is an addition to the MASSIVE family, and will exist side by side with the original instrument.
They call it an addition to Massive. Not a replacement. Not a successor.
https://www.native-instruments.com/prod ... massive-x/

I too was thinking it was a replacement (especially because of the new Massive Expansions released so recently).
But I do agree now that it is clearly an addition (I imagine the Expansions will just be updated via NA to include their equivalent patches in Massive X).

rsp

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed Sep 19, 2018 12:41 pm

aMUSEd wrote:
chk071 wrote:They also call it "The rebirth of a legend".
Yes because it can be both a successor and an addition and exist side by side with it, really people should not fall into black and white thinking about this or get so hung up on marketing semantics.

My point exactly. I wouldn't know why it wouldn't be a successor, though. Why use the name if it wasn't one? You address a certain audience with a sequel to a software which was used for special use cases. They surely didn't make a string machine out of it.

pixel85 · Post by **pixel85** » Wed Sep 19, 2018 1:07 pm

For the third time: look up at the picture of Massive X and you'll know if it's successor or not. So much talk where answer is just few clicks away

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed Sep 19, 2018 1:15 pm

Not sure what you mean. If it doesn't look like the predecessor, then it is no successor?

Igro · Post by **Igro** » Wed Sep 19, 2018 7:40 pm

They called is Massive X to avoid a cheap upgrade.

felis · Post by **felis** » Wed Sep 19, 2018 7:49 pm

Igro wrote:They called is Massive X to avoid a cheap upgrade.

I think you've got the right answer.

SJ_Digriz · Post by **SJ_Digriz** » Wed Sep 19, 2018 7:55 pm

felis wrote:
Igro wrote:They called is Massive X to avoid a cheap upgrade.
I think you've got the right answer.

If it follow K6s example, it will have a new coloring option and a reverb. But it will be a lot easier for preset guys to sell you their patch sets and load them in the preset browser.

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Wed Sep 19, 2018 8:04 pm

Igro wrote:They called is Massive X to avoid a cheap upgrade.

that is the best answer yet

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Wed Sep 19, 2018 8:05 pm

chk071 wrote:Not sure what you mean. If it doesn't look like the predecessor, then it is no successor?

Doesn't look like (as in not even vaguely close) and doesn't have the same or even similar feature set... the only commonality is that the same people made it?

In that case RePro is the successor to Bazille which was the successor to Zebra

martinjuenke · Post by **martinjuenke** » Wed Sep 19, 2018 8:09 pm

pdxindy wrote:RePro is the successor to Bazille which was the successor to Zebra

That‘s something of a fresh view, really!

pixel85 · Post by **pixel85** » Wed Sep 19, 2018 8:21 pm

pdxindy wrote:
chk071 wrote:Not sure what you mean. If it doesn't look like the predecessor, then it is no successor?
Doesn't look like (as in not even vaguely close) and doesn't have the same or even similar feature set... the only commonality is that the same people made it?

In that case RePro is the successor to Bazille which was the successor to Zebra

I'm pretty sure that you're looking at different synth picture than Massive X and that's why you cant see similarities

Here I may help you. The same sections in both Massive and Massive X: Wavetable Osc with WT-position, filter, noise, Mod Osc, Amp, FX, 4xEnv, 4xLFO/Stepper/Perf, Voice, Routing, Perfomers.
Differences: 3xOsc in Massive when you cna see only 2xOsc in Massive X. Massive X have also new features like 'Gorilla' whatever it is. Looks pretty the same to me, just different color and GUI scheme.

Native Instruments Massive X Synth - Sequel to Massive (Out Now!)