Arturia Synclavier V2 Is Out Now!

[Ingonator]

I've been experimenting a bit with the resynthesis yesterday.

One thing that was suprising that you can ofter get better results, truer to the original sound, using only a small number of frames rather than the full 99.

For some reason even though complex sounds like a spoken phrase can be resynthesised reasonably well, so far things like gongs, cymbals come out sounding horrible.

Resynthesis might not work with certain samples but even from those you might extract a few frames that produce an interesting sound taht is differnt to the sampled intrument.
For the resynthesis before you import you can also add "analysis markers" manually instead of craeating them automatically and then do the resynthesis if it sounds the way you like it.

With the resynthesis in Synclavier V2 you have to be aware that the amplitude is not imported so all frames will have the same loudness, opposing to a percussive sound that gets more and more silent after a while. This is a bit different with the resynthesis in Tone2 Icarus that also imports the amplitude for the single waveforms in the new wavetable.
In Synclavier V2 when using synthesis and no samples you need to adjust the Amp envelope to get a percussive sound.

While using Samples only works in teh Carrier the result of the resyntheis could be also used in the modulator (or with both the carrier and modulator) if you want to use use that for doing FM. As mentioned earlier doing FM also seems to work when using a sample in the carrier.

What does not work with additive resynthesis is importing the sound of detuned oscillators (e.g. a Supersaw) or FXs like e.g. a Chorus, Phaser or Reverb. It will just import the basic timbre of the sound.
With up to 12 layers Synclavier V2 offers a nice option to produce detuned sounds. You just have to copy it multiple times and then detune the layers which are called "Partials" in Synclavier V2. Detune and panning pf the layers/partials could be easily set at the mixer page.
Besides that the plugin also contains a Chorus FX. The "Chorus" parameter in the mixer works a bit different than a Chorus FX.

[Bodhisan]

A couple of simple videos explaining the sample portion (the first is independent, the second from Arturia - both giving really different and valuable info):




I haven't tried yet, but I hope this newer version fixed a bug wherein if I came back to a project in Logic, sometimes the saved file in Synclavier reverted back to the init - and even clicking on the file name did nothing - ahhhhhhh!!!!! Losing a cool sound that you don't exactly remember everything you did is frustrating. I stopped using it because of this.

[egbert101]

Pure eargasm stuff to me, and huge potential now for that Synclavier vibe having fresh new material.

[c_voltage]

Thanks for info folks.
Tried today Sinclavier a bit deeper than before, really some abyss damn hehe ).
The only perhaps thing that upset a bit, it's quite weak reverb fx builtin. I mean, even at maximum decay it's sounds about one second. Not critically of course, but nonetheless.

[ChamomileShark]

I haven't tried yet, but I hope this newer version fixed a bug wherein if I came back to a project in Logic, sometimes the saved file in Synclavier reverted back to the init - and even clicking on the file name did nothing - ahhhhhhh!!!!! Losing a cool sound that you don't exactly remember everything you did is frustrating. I stopped using it because of this.

I think I may have experienced the same thing in Cubase

[Tj Shredder]

Thanks for info folks.
Tried today Sinclavier a bit deeper than before, really some abyss damn hehe ).
The only perhaps thing that upset a bit, it's quite weak reverb fx builtin. I mean, even at maximum decay it's sounds about one second. Not critically of course, but nonetheless.

The original had no reverb at all, they took a lexicon 480L instead. You should do the same!

In general I prefer synths with no fx, if I need fx, I add whatever suits me anyway... In Bitwig at least I can save any combination as preset...

[Sequent]

Thanks for info folks.
Tried today Sinclavier a bit deeper than before, really some abyss damn hehe ).
The only perhaps thing that upset a bit, it's quite weak reverb fx builtin. I mean, even at maximum decay it's sounds about one second. Not critically of course, but nonetheless.

The original had no reverb at all, they took a lexicon 480L instead. You should do the same!

In general I prefer synths with no fx, if I need fx, I add whatever suits me anyway... In Bitwig at least I can save any combination as preset...

Agreed! While having a built reverb can sometimes be good, I much prefer adding reverb later in as part of the mixing process. You probably already know this, but in case you do not... if you want a really good 480L emu, check out Relab Development.

[Ingonator]

Thanks for info folks.
Tried today Sinclavier a bit deeper than before, really some abyss damn hehe ).
The only perhaps thing that upset a bit, it's quite weak reverb fx builtin. I mean, even at maximum decay it's sounds about one second. Not critically of course, but nonetheless.

The original had no reverb at all, they took a lexicon 480L instead. You should do the same!

In general I prefer synths with no fx, if I need fx, I add whatever suits me anyway... In Bitwig at least I can save any combination as preset...

Currently my favorite reverbs are Lexicon MPX Native Reverb, Eventide Blackhole and ValhallaVintageVerb. At the moment i am using Synclavier V2 with either Blackhole or MPX Native.

[SLiC]

Or a bit cheaper Polaris is a great sounding retro-reverb https://www.audiority.com/shop/polaris/

[Ingonator]

Or a bit cheaper Polaris is a great sounding retro-reverb https://www.audiority.com/shop/polaris/

I got both Eventide Blackhole and Lexicon MPX Native Reverb when there was a big sale and IIRC MPX Native was even cheaper than the current price of Polaris while the price of Blackhole was around 58 €.
ValhallaVintageVerb is quite cheap anyway even at the normal price.

[c_voltage]

Well, just sometimes more conveniently\faster use builin effects, all in one patch so to speak (yes it can be done thru DAW some system, but it not exactly the same). Additionally always interestingly to found some another reverb with his own character which will use exclusively for current machine. Good reverbs does not happen much. In the same time i do not have a gap in reverb plugs (like any of us i guess hehe).

About Blackhole, Ingo, do not need please, it's a sore. I dont remember, did i wrote about or not, Blackhole was a bit nerfed starting from one of latest versions (aproximately from those time when he got new UI, that i did not like as well). It's was related with changed feedback algorithm. Well, i will not be do offtop, tech details can found in respectively topic at eventide oficial forum, he not so much oldest. Blackhole was one of my favorites reverbs too. So, i still use one of old version, that works very well.

[SLiC]

Or a bit cheaper Polaris is a great sounding retro-reverb https://www.audiority.com/shop/polaris/

I got both Eventide Blackhole and Lexicon MPX Native Reverb when there was a big sale and IIRC MPX Native was even cheaper than the current price of Polaris while the price of Blackhole was around 58 €.
ValhallaVintageVerb is quite cheap anyway even at the normal price.

Yup, all great and great value- I was actually referring to the Relab Development Lex which is closer to 300 bucks. I have Blackhole, Shimmer, Vintage, Breeze, SR2016 etc....but I still really like Polaris, it has a pretty unique sound and is very retro, I always put it after Legend for example, just seems to work without washing it out or becoming a reverb 'effect'. You cant have to many verbs

[ew]

Free, I don't know, their upgrade prices for the V-Collection are pretty high. Especially when upgrading to each major version, these updates SHOULD be free.

The update is free to any owner of Synclavier V or any owner of V Collection 6. It's a good definition of "free" IMO

Synclavier V was already in V Colletion 5, so I think that any owner of V Collection 5 can also get Synclavier V 2 for free too.

They do. Everything that's not exclusive to V6 gets updated as well. Now, if they'd fix the bug with the piano plugins where there's no sustain and there's random parameter changes, I'd be tempted to upgrade to V6.

ew

[hollo]

Great update!

The BPM sync and the looping functions was missing so painfully.
The sampling and the resynth can go a long way using the synth, I mean a whole another way we can think of.

The synth was already very interesting and unique, now we can begin to use it also.
Nice move Arturia

[jdoo]

I didn't realize until tonight, just how significant an update this was to the Synclavier V. Only 1/2 way through the tutorials and presets... but definitely surprised there hasn't been more talk about this upgrade. Free for us V Collection 5 owners. Thanks Arturia!!