U-he hardware using FPGA?

[V0RT3X]

Just wondering how possible it would be for U-he to create hardware versions of something like Diva using a FPGA?

If anyone isn't sure what FPGA is, you can read about it here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field-pro ... gate_array

I also know how much work is involved, but still maybe it could be possible? If U-he did do this, it would probably be at a collectors price, but still it would be something I'd totally support.

Imagine having something like this without using a computer..

[david.beholder]

Some one is on the hype wave.

[RobGee]

Good luck with that! They’ve got enough hold ups as it is, we’re still waiting for Zebra HZ 2.8.

I’d rather see an updated Zebra 3 and Diva 2 than an old version running on FPGA.

[V0RT3X]

Some one is on the hype wave.

How is using FPGA on a hype wave?


Looks like other developers are doing it.

https://www.keyboardmag.com/gear/waldor ... ered-synth

[david.beholder]

Looks like other developers are doing it.

Other developers like to spit marketing above real facts. And on every reality check their fpga has dsp or it's doing totally different stuff that advertised.

Btw, have you ever programmed FPGA?

[V0RT3X]

Looks like other developers are doing it.

Other developers like to spit marketing above real facts. And on every reality check their fpga has dsp or it's doing totally different stuff that advertised.

Btw, have you ever programmed FPGA?

You're not providing very many concrete reasons why U-he shouldn't use a FPGA. Or any counter arguments for that matter..

Where are your examples?

[david.beholder]

Unfortunately it's like arguing that Earth is not flat. FPGA is not made for tasks like U-he have.
Most of the companies are using word FPGA as gimmick for "our digital sound like analog" (gearslutz effect) and for real using old good approaches.

Please read more about purpose, structure and workflow of FPGA before I can continue.

[pdxindy]

Unfortunately it's like arguing that Earth is not flat. FPGA is not made for tasks like U-he have.
Most of the companies are using word FPGA as gimmick for "our digital sound like analog" (gearslutz effect) and for real using old good approaches.

Please read more about purpose, structure and workflow of FPGA before I can continue.

I think the evidence of the Kyra synth far outweighs your vague and uninformative arguments

[V0RT3X]

Unfortunately it's like arguing that Earth is not flat. FPGA is not made for tasks like U-he have.
Most of the companies are using word FPGA as gimmick for "our digital sound like analog" (gearslutz effect) and for real using old good approaches.

Please read more about purpose, structure and workflow of FPGA before I can continue.

ahh I think I'll just let you disagree, I don't have the time to do these kind of arguments today.

Cheers

Anyhow, back OT

Anyone else here interested?

[EvilDragon]

Unfortunately it's like arguing that Earth is not flat. FPGA is not made for tasks like U-he have.
Most of the companies are using word FPGA as gimmick for "our digital sound like analog" (gearslutz effect) and for real using old good approaches.

Please read more about purpose, structure and workflow of FPGA before I can continue.

I think the evidence of the Kyra synth far outweighs your vague and uninformative arguments

Here's a better argument then. FPGA does not have x86 instruction set which your Intel or AMD CPUs have. Nor does it have SSE or AVX instructions either. It's just a bunch of programmable gate arrays. Now, if you think you can get an Intel CPU out of an FPGA beefy enough to run u-he's DSP, you'd be wrong.

Meaning all the u-he plugins would have to be rewritten for FPGAs in FPGA-specific language. Ain't happening, I'd say.

[V0RT3X]

Unfortunately it's like arguing that Earth is not flat. FPGA is not made for tasks like U-he have.
Most of the companies are using word FPGA as gimmick for "our digital sound like analog" (gearslutz effect) and for real using old good approaches.

Please read more about purpose, structure and workflow of FPGA before I can continue.

I think the evidence of the Kyra synth far outweighs your vague and uninformative arguments

Here's a better argument then. FPGA does not have x86 instruction set which your Intel or AMD CPUs have. Nor does it have SSE or AVX instructions either. It's just a bunch of programmable gate arrays. Now, if you think you can get an Intel CPU out of an FPGA beefy enough to run u-he's DSP, you'd be wrong.

Meaning all the u-he plugins would have to be rewritten for FPGAs in FPGA-specific language. Ain't happening, I'd say.

ah ok see this is a much better reply.

Ok well it was worth asking.

Cheers

[david.beholder]

I think the evidence of the Kyra synth far outweighs your vague and uninformative arguments

In what way it does? Mind to share video/sound clip where Kyra is successful in emulation of analog synth?

My arguments are informative for people who at least dare to spend 5-10 mintues on google before asking. I know, I know some people are way above it.

Here's a better argument then. FPGA does not have x86 instruction set which your Intel or AMD CPUs have. Nor does it have SSE or AVX instructions either.

Funny fact FPGAs might provide better Vector/Chain instructions to improve DIVA performance. But FPGA performance itself is indeed very sad.

[tehlord]

Some one is on the hype wave.

How is using FPGA on a hype wave?


Looks like other developers are doing it.

https://www.keyboardmag.com/gear/waldor ... ered-synth

The guy that developed that synth did it off his own back, alone, at great expense to himself and for years. Waldorf are effectively glorified distribution and manufacturing partners.

Development costs and time are significant.

[sth]

Uhhhhhhh this is super round-about. Creating a hardware synth that replicates your software synth that aims to be like a hardware synth

The idea itself is also backwards. You don't decide to make something with a hammer and nails because you just found out about them! You should remember that you have them so that in the future when a task requires them you can use them in that situation.

I am not interested in a hardware replication of Diva. Just make another hardware synth if anything, but I'm still not interested in that!

[pdxindy]

I think the evidence of the Kyra synth far outweighs your vague and uninformative arguments

In what way it does? Mind to share video/sound clip where Kyra is successful in emulation of analog synth?

You said FPGA is not made for tasks like u-he have. Kyra is a virtual analog synth... subtractive synth... which is what Diva, RePro, Ace are... Kyra is well spec'ed, has Osc FM, Ring Mod and 128 voices... seems like plenty of capability to handle a u-he synth.