Daw's & Their Instrument / FX Browsers - The Good, The Bad & The Ugly
- KVRian
- 782 posts since 21 Apr, 2016
Least favorite: Probably Tracktion, Live 8 and previous.
Favorites: Live 9+, then possibly a combination of Studio One, FL, and Reason. Really like having the images of the plugins there, makes it a lot faster to grab what I want, especially if I happen to forgot what a particular effect is called.
Favorites: Live 9+, then possibly a combination of Studio One, FL, and Reason. Really like having the images of the plugins there, makes it a lot faster to grab what I want, especially if I happen to forgot what a particular effect is called.
Nobody, Ever wrote:I have enough plugins.
- KVRian
- 977 posts since 16 Jan, 2012 from UK
i feel i should give a shout to FL Studio's pop up browser. it's fairly clear and easy to find everything from it. the ability to save thumbnails for fx and instruments is really well done.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3496 posts since 30 Dec, 2014
Screengrab of how Reaper's browser looks on my system, it takes a full five minutes to find anything 


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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3496 posts since 30 Dec, 2014
I discovered during my University course on Interactive Multimedia Development I graduated in 10 years ago, that there was a clear division between those who chose 'Computing Programming' and those who chose 'Interactive Multimedia / GUI Design', and that was from other students, but it was also something I found through my own research coursework studies. Interestingly, there is books written for programmers... but it's pretty clear that there are developers that are stubborn in acceptance and / or blind to the concept of intuitive and accessible workflow.
https://www.amazon.com/Interface-Design ... 1893115941
"Most programmers' fear of user interface (UI) programming comes from their fear of doing UI design. They think that UI design is like graphic design―the mysterious process by which creative, latte-drinking, all-black-wearing people produce cool-looking, artistic pieces. Most programmers see themselves as analytic, logical thinkers instead―strong at reasoning, weak on artistic judgment, and incapable of doing UI design.
In this brilliantly readable book, author Joel Spolsky proposes simple, logical rules that can be applied without any artistic talent to improve any user interface, from traditional GUI applications to websites to consumer electronics. Spolsky's primary axiom, the importance of bringing the program model in line with the user model, is both rational and simple.
In a fun and entertaining way, Spolsky makes user interface design easy for programmers to grasp. After reading User Interface Design for Programmers, you'll know how to design interfaces with the user in mind. You'll learn the important principles that underlie all good UI design, and you'll learn how to perform usability testing that works."
https://www.amazon.com/Interface-Design ... 1893115941
"Most programmers' fear of user interface (UI) programming comes from their fear of doing UI design. They think that UI design is like graphic design―the mysterious process by which creative, latte-drinking, all-black-wearing people produce cool-looking, artistic pieces. Most programmers see themselves as analytic, logical thinkers instead―strong at reasoning, weak on artistic judgment, and incapable of doing UI design.
In this brilliantly readable book, author Joel Spolsky proposes simple, logical rules that can be applied without any artistic talent to improve any user interface, from traditional GUI applications to websites to consumer electronics. Spolsky's primary axiom, the importance of bringing the program model in line with the user model, is both rational and simple.
In a fun and entertaining way, Spolsky makes user interface design easy for programmers to grasp. After reading User Interface Design for Programmers, you'll know how to design interfaces with the user in mind. You'll learn the important principles that underlie all good UI design, and you'll learn how to perform usability testing that works."
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3496 posts since 30 Dec, 2014
Reaper apparently had an update in the past few days.... no changes to their old archaic browser into the 21st century still...
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- KVRer
- 19 posts since 21 Aug, 2007
This is stupid.THE INTRANCER wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:03 pm Screengrab of how Reaper's browser looks on my system, it takes a full five minutes to find anything
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Make some smart folders and everything is super easy to find.
But I guess that is too difficult for a genius like you.
- KVRian
- 782 posts since 21 Apr, 2016
That was... oddly aggressive.coolbass wrote: Fri Oct 26, 2018 7:31 pmThis is stupid.THE INTRANCER wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:03 pm Screengrab of how Reaper's browser looks on my system, it takes a full five minutes to find anything
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Make some smart folders and everything is super easy to find.
But I guess that is too difficult for a genius like you.
Nobody, Ever wrote:I have enough plugins.
- Rad Grandad
- 38041 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
duly notedzenophilix wrote: Fri Oct 26, 2018 8:40 pmThat was... oddly aggressive.coolbass wrote: Fri Oct 26, 2018 7:31 pmThis is stupid.THE INTRANCER wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:03 pm Screengrab of how Reaper's browser looks on my system, it takes a full five minutes to find anything
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Make some smart folders and everything is super easy to find.
But I guess that is too difficult for a genius like you.![]()
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- addled muppet weed
- 111316 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
- KVRAF
- 2302 posts since 21 Mar, 2012 from Nom..nom.. YOUR MOM
Resurrecting your own thread - sweet!THE INTRANCER wrote: Fri Oct 26, 2018 7:24 pm Reaper apparently had an update in the past few days.... no changes to their old archaic browser into the 21st century still...
Right - it was nice to see PreSonus take a cue from Propellerhead's Reason and improve their browser. I feel the device thumbnails really improved it as well....THE INTRANCER wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2018 6:46 am It's not going to be any surprise to anyone I don't think... in how I view Reaper's browserfrom the aforementioned title, but for someone who migrated from another daw, I will say that when I arrived with Studio One 2.6 before version 3.0, the lack of thumbnails in the browser was a pretty dire departure from what I was use to before
Win 10 | Ableton Live 11 Suite | Reason 13 | i7 3770 @ 3.5 Ghz | 16 GB RAM | RME Babyface Pro| Akai MPC Live 3 & Akai Force | Roland System 8 | Roland TB-3 | Roland MX-1 | Dreadbox Typhon | Korg Minilogue XD
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- KVRian
- 799 posts since 2 Nov, 2014
ThomasHelzle wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2018 12:47 pm
But being able to select, insert and pre-listen the stuff I want right at the position in the chain where it is supposed to go is just great. Suddenly the browser isn't something detached like a library you have to walk to first to get your books, it feels more like having all the books right there when you sit at the fire in the evening and feel like reading.
This takes the BWS browser to another level. Trying out samples, fx, vst, presets in context is awesome.
Try out different kicks on drum machine or different brand delays compressors and without changing the song until you close the window. Or just press esc and everything is just the way it was. Brilliant.
Also for outside sample browsing the new Loop Cloud 3 is awesome. Since you can add your own library to it too.
You can preview all your library with it synced with your daw and with midi files. So you can for example preview all snare drums only hitting on 2 and 4 in sync with your song is insane. You can also create your own custom midi files for it. And it is free.
- KVRian
- 573 posts since 14 Nov, 2005 from León, Spain
My real experience is limited to Ableton Live, Cakewalk/Sonar, and Reaper. I used to own Reason 2 a century ago or so, but I lost memory of that. So, on topic:
Good: Reaper and Cakewalk. Ex aequo. Each can do things the other can't, but they are decent and get the job done.
Bad: Live. A browser that won't let you browse your own drives unless it scans them first. That is bad. I get the idea of a library database, but it should be an extra option, like in Kontakt, IMO. The rest is meh, an uglish mediocre browser. (Edit: to be fair, hot swap is cool, but just works with its own devices)
Ugly: Reaper. Really. And it gets worse if you find a decent theme for the rest of the program, its ugliness stands out even more.
Good: Reaper and Cakewalk. Ex aequo. Each can do things the other can't, but they are decent and get the job done.
Bad: Live. A browser that won't let you browse your own drives unless it scans them first. That is bad. I get the idea of a library database, but it should be an extra option, like in Kontakt, IMO. The rest is meh, an uglish mediocre browser. (Edit: to be fair, hot swap is cool, but just works with its own devices)
Ugly: Reaper. Really. And it gets worse if you find a decent theme for the rest of the program, its ugliness stands out even more.
- KVRian
- 782 posts since 21 Apr, 2016
Device thumbnails are a must for me. The visual recognition makes it so much easier to just grab something. Ableton, step it up, I love everything else about your software...EnochLight wrote: Fri Oct 26, 2018 9:08 pmResurrecting your own thread - sweet!THE INTRANCER wrote: Fri Oct 26, 2018 7:24 pm Reaper apparently had an update in the past few days.... no changes to their old archaic browser into the 21st century still...You know Scotty, we disagree on a lot of stuff - but Reaper's browser is one thing we can agree on. It was one of the reasons why I never could get into using it, and ultimately why I decided upon Studio One as my secondary DAW.
Right - it was nice to see PreSonus take a cue from Propellerhead's Reason and improve their browser. I feel the device thumbnails really improved it as well....THE INTRANCER wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2018 6:46 am It's not going to be any surprise to anyone I don't think... in how I view Reaper's browserfrom the aforementioned title, but for someone who migrated from another daw, I will say that when I arrived with Studio One 2.6 before version 3.0, the lack of thumbnails in the browser was a pretty dire departure from what I was use to before
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Nobody, Ever wrote:I have enough plugins.