Feature Request - Skip the MS C++ Libary Install
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- KVRAF
- 1759 posts since 11 Nov, 2009 from Northern CA
Those of us who are beta testers are subject to frequent updates to the library. Every time we must suffer the delay while the C++ stuff gets installed - it's a little scary to hit Cancel after this process has already begun. 99.99% of the time, the C++ stuff is the same as the last time. Could the install program detect that the currently installed library is the right one and skip the MS C++ install? Or could we get a dialog box asking us to either proceed with the C++ install or skip it?
- KVRian
- 1094 posts since 23 Sep, 2006
Actually, yeah, that's caught me out before. I think i accidentally pressed enter during install (or escape) and it totally borked my C++ stuff, took a while to get things working correctly again.
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- KVRAF
- 3729 posts since 3 Nov, 2015
Ah. They only thing related to MS C++ I see on Linux installs is at the very end of the install where it briefly shows at popup screen. Otherwise pretty snappy installs, focused on Melda plugins.
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MeldaProduction MeldaProduction https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=176122
- KVRAF
- 14339 posts since 15 Mar, 2008 from Czech republic
I'm afraid not, this is purely microsoft stuff, which is just needed. What is the problem anyways? It takes just a few seconds.
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- KVRAF
- 10376 posts since 2 Sep, 2003 from Surrey, UK
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- KVRAF
- 3729 posts since 3 Nov, 2015
You mean, on Windows you have to install every time something that's not related to the Melda plugins before installing the plugins ?
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MirkoVanHauten MirkoVanHauten https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=376111
- KVRist
- 457 posts since 12 Mar, 2016
No definitely not. It has to be installed one time only, if the right version isn't already installed. There are several installers from other companies showing this behavior. They check if it is installed or not and thus can skip it. It probably is just a flag in the commandline.mevla wrote: Sat Oct 27, 2018 2:57 pm You mean, on Windows you have to install every time something that's not related to the Melda plugins before installing the plugins ?
It runs on my machine! Everything else is undefined behavior.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1759 posts since 11 Nov, 2009 from Northern CA
I have never bothered to time it, but it is a noticeable and annoying amount of time.
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MeldaProduction MeldaProduction https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=176122
- KVRAF
- 14339 posts since 15 Mar, 2008 from Czech republic
Hmmm, I'll check if it could be faster. I believe the MS installer checks if it is already installed, but not sure why it is taking so much time on your computers.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1759 posts since 11 Nov, 2009 from Northern CA
Last install (yesterday) I timed it and it took approx. 85 seconds on my machine (five-year old I7 with conventional drives, not SSDs). Not the end of the world, but it would be nice to skip this step if not needed, and 99%+ of the time it's definitely not needed.
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Starship Krupa Starship Krupa https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=337746
- KVRist
- 303 posts since 13 Sep, 2014
I've been getting a forced install of the library with each new revision of the plug-in package, so unless Microsoft have been updating their libraries that quickly, the forced reinstall is unnecessary.
Maybe they have, in which case it's not. Is there maybe a switch that tells the C++ installer to check for previously installed versions?
I've installed old software packages that installed similarly antique versions of the MSVCRT that I'm sure I already had, and wondered if there was some way to avoid that shenanigans.
Maybe they have, in which case it's not. Is there maybe a switch that tells the C++ installer to check for previously installed versions?
I've installed old software packages that installed similarly antique versions of the MSVCRT that I'm sure I already had, and wondered if there was some way to avoid that shenanigans.
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- KVRAF
- 3729 posts since 3 Nov, 2015
And so I'm lucky on Linux to not have to deal with any of that at all. At least so far.
When it requires a version update of the MS stuff, is it because the installer is actually using very new methods and functions only found in the newest version of that MS thing or, is it just a 'stupid' version number comparison and would run just fine without the update if nothing was insisting on those numbers to be the same ?
When it requires a version update of the MS stuff, is it because the installer is actually using very new methods and functions only found in the newest version of that MS thing or, is it just a 'stupid' version number comparison and would run just fine without the update if nothing was insisting on those numbers to be the same ?
- KVRian
- 1059 posts since 28 Jun, 2006 from Germany
Same here (on a SSD, btw), hehe.Starship Krupa wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:29 am I've been getting a forced install of the library with each new revision of the plug-in package, so unless Microsoft have been updating their libraries that quickly, the forced reinstall is unnecessary.
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MeldaProduction MeldaProduction https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=176122
- KVRAF
- 14339 posts since 15 Mar, 2008 from Czech republic
I'll check it out
. Please then reinvestigate when 12.08 will be released (no idea when
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