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https://www.theverge.com/2018/11/12/180 ... pean-union

I'm hearing YouTube will block all privately uploaded videos in order to eliminate any liability for non-compliance at their end. How far does it extend? Pictures with logos and other people in the background?


EDIT: Removed unintentional clickbait title.
Last edited by Mushy Mushy on Fri Nov 16, 2018 3:10 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"

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so youtube will stop for example me loading a video of me playing my guitar? for fear of what exactly?
extend that to all youtube content uploaders and they kill their ad revenue?

im not seeing how it would work other than to give copyright holders more power to retain copyright and intellectual property rights.
although "death of the internet imminent!" gets news sites more clicks than "complicated law atuff"
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vurt wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 2:20 pm so youtube will stop for example me loading a video of me playing my guitar? for fear of what exactly?
extend that to all youtube content uploaders and they kill their ad revenue?

im not seeing how it would work other than to give copyright holders more power to retain copyright and intellectual property rights.
although "death of the internet imminent!" gets news sites more clicks than "complicated law atuff"
Yes precisely. You need express permission from everybody/thing in the video.

If you’re playing your guitar without permission from say ESP they can sue, if somebody walks past your window at the time they can sue. But they don’t sue you they sue YouTube who have said they’re not prepared to risk that and will block any private videos.
"I was wondering if you'd like to try Magic Mushrooms"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"

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Re death of the Internet I completely agree it sounds a bit clickbaity and it’s not a term I made up but have seen it used frequently on this topic.

I do however think it’s not that much of an exaggeration. If we are not able to post pictures and videos on it then that’s a massive massive chunk. What is left then? Just commercial advertising sites. Think that this could even extend to forums.... If I post a picture and Roland doesn’t like it then they can sue KVR.
"I was wondering if you'd like to try Magic Mushrooms"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"

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If I have got any facts incorrect then please correct me :tu:
"I was wondering if you'd like to try Magic Mushrooms"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"

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Mushy Mushy wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 2:51 pm If I have got any facts incorrect then please correct me :tu:
i couldn't say :lol:
im not so much disagreeing with you, just from what ive heard, it's not actually been finalised yet.
the above is worst case scenarios as far as im aware.
so do americans have the same laws applied? ie can they still upload? if so everyone will just use proxy ips

i just think they have no idea that it is a true life pandoras box, good luck putting the lid on that!
like they've stopped any of the things we would all agree should be stopped on the internet...
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IPs will not get around this as the videos will not be allowed at source. YouTube will take them down immediately.

The YouTubers I follow (all car guys) are very worried about this.
"I was wondering if you'd like to try Magic Mushrooms"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"

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the only channel i follow that's mentioned it is the same guy who thinks cern is being used to open a portal, through which cthulhu will arrive and destroy the planet. (im not even joking) so ive not taken it very seriously as of yet

have youtube put out any statements or are their actions speculation atm?
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Yes they’ve released a whole series of statements and Q&As on their Twitter content creator page.

https://twitter.com/ytcreators?lang=en
"I was wondering if you'd like to try Magic Mushrooms"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"

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Mushy Mushy wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 3:30 pm Yes they’ve released a whole series of statements and Q&As on their Twitter content creator page.

https://twitter.com/ytcreators?lang=en
well that does change things.
ill have to read through it, get more concrete details

forget youtube though, without memes fb will just be a white page :o minimalist heaven!
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im surprised there haven't been more shocked or angry faces in the yt suggestions list thumbnails
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vurt wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 3:39 pm im surprised there haven't been more shocked or angry faces in the yt suggestions list thumbnails
Precisely. I’m also surprised it isn’t front page everywhere as it has the potential to be massive.
"I was wondering if you'd like to try Magic Mushrooms"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"

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Yeah it’s got nothing to do with YouTube’s decision. This is all EU.

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masterhiggins wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 3:45 pm Yeah it’s got nothing to do with YouTube’s decision. This is all EU.
true. but how they interpret the law and act upon it helps clear up the legal speak and remove any bias from news outlets
if i can see how the services i use are effected it makes more sense.
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How about a flat fee that everyone pays to the respective national body in charge of artists' copyrights (for instance Gema in Germany), paid automatically for instance via the ISP bill.
We already pay such a monthly fee here in Portugal. Basically because everyone knows it is impossible to track the usage of every song or parts thereof.

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